Number Crunching and Arguments

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Originally Posted by KevDen2005

Uh...Every Marine a Rifleman!!!

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I was an 0331 and after that a PMI. Huge difference in shooting between Infantry and the others. The Marines definitely have the hardest qual (to call it that) of the branches but it still was not impressive to see some Marines behind a rifle or pistol.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

This thread is kind of stupid. I've said it before...there will never be any real door to door confiscation. Just grandfathering and patiently waiting for you to croak. Your kids (or grandkids) having never shot post ban and being indoctrinated will turn in everything unregistered before it jumps up and harms somebody.

Your enemies are patient and not stupid. They act over the timespan of generations.

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They can't afford to. We need to be disarmed and replaced quickly while they still have the perception of legitimacy. What will all the social programs, national debt, social decay look like in 20 years? The velocity of this is changing.

The plan is to destroy and replace, not prolonged destruction. If we reach a point where people realize they are being played, a counter-revolution is born. They can't afford for those people to be armed.

The reason we believe they have patience is because the Baby-Boomer-Commie-Revolution was cancelled--they had no choice. Bill Ayers had bigger plans but once they realized a frontal assault didn't have adequate support they moved to Plan B. I recall they openly discussed the need to murder ~10 million Americans who refused re-education in 1971 (I think?).

(NOTE: I am not slamming all BBs, the reason they failed is because BBs stood up to them)

Patience was never Plan A.

McCarthy started confronting a very visible threat in 1950. They've been at this for 60 years!

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

This thread is kind of stupid. I've said it before...there will never be any real door to door confiscation. Just grandfathering and patiently waiting for you to croak. Your kids (or grandkids) having never shot post ban and being indoctrinated will turn in everything unregistered before it jumps up and harms somebody.

Your enemies are patient and not stupid. They act over the timespan of generations.

Also, look at generation Z and keep in mind who is joining the military. Times are changing. Just because the greatest generation - X wouldn't do something doesn't mean they hold the same views by far and large.

I think the only legitimate fear at this point is continued divisiveness leading to succession of state(s) down the road. Discussing door kicking is as realistic as discussing what we will do when starship Enterprise lands for real and the United Federation of Planets tries to take over. (If I got that lingo right)

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(fixed your lingo, except that the Enterprise was from Earth- it was Vulcans that made first contact in that "universe")
This, and when it comes to a ban- before they go door kicking, they will likely just label those who will not turn in what is known they are possession of as domestic terrorists, freezing their bank accounts. By then they will have already had many of whatever is banned turned in already, and they will have already changed public opinion enough to where a ban has passed. They'll likely ban "assault weapons" (however they define them this go-around), then progress to further and further restrictions... bit by bit, one step at a time. That is what the death of a republic looks like- because once they have a majority on their side, they continue to push "Democracy" (mob rule). And once enough of the guns are out of the hands of civilians, y'all know where the country is headed...

They will never get them all- their aim is to get enough to provide a governing system so good it has to be forced upon the people.
The question will be how much is enough- especially with the rise of 3D printer plans and open-source CNC systems... Technology has really changed the landscape of gun control- it will likely involve digital files and CNC code in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ayHfaHCXQ

The space aliens are not going to land again. They are going to toss large asteroids at the earth and leave. They will come back after the dust settles and probably won't have to worry about us having guns.
Don't panic! Being an astronaut sucks, trust me!