Central 70

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Originally Posted by kidicarus13

A drop in the bucket when compared to the total cost of the project.

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There is zero requirement for them to do that and it is our money just being given away.

If it’s impossible to drive anywhere, more people will take the light rail, that way the other horrible investment won’t loook so bad. Duh.

Traffic sucks on I-70 most of the day. It really sucks going westbound in the morning and eastbound in the afternoon. The elevated portion of I-70 is too narrow and can't be readily expanded. So what is YOUR solution to this problem? Putting in 8 lanes each way at ground level? The land acquisition costs would be prohibitive and there would be even greater negative impacts on the working class neighborhoods N of I-70.

One alternative would simply be to add another six lanes on top of the existing elevated I-70 with the top deck going east and the bottom deck going west, provided that the existing supports could withstand the extra loads.

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Originally Posted by 8Ring

Traffic sucks on I-70 most of the day. It really sucks going westbound in the morning and eastbound in the afternoon. The elevated portion of I-70 is too narrow and can't be readily expanded. So what is YOUR solution to this problem? Putting in 8 lanes each way at ground level? The land acquisition costs would be prohibitive and there would be even greater negative impacts on the working class neighborhoods N of I-70.

One alternative would simply be to add another six lanes on top of the existing elevated I-70 with the top deck going east and the bottom deck

going west, provided that the existing supports could withstand the extra loads.

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Not put it underground with a park on top.

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Originally Posted by Big E3

I also can’t believe they would even consider starting this cluster F before widening 270 between Vasquez and I25. They are going to really need some alternate routes around this mess.

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Yup- The central area of I-270 is a joke, with the 60's vintage Vasquez interchange being catalyst for miles of back-ups in the morning and evening.

What ever happened to this plan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNixDlRoMvA

Colorado's own Big Dig. Coming soon to a commute near you.

Seattle is in the middle of something similar. The Alaskan Way viaduct replacement. They are building a 2 mile tunnel directly under downtown. The tunneling machine was digging from July 2013 until April 2017. The roadway is going in now I think. The "improvement" removes the existing 6 elevated lanes and replaces them with 4 underground.

You guys are looking at this all wrong.

Look at it like the light rail.

It's not supposed to improve you common peon's lives, make your commute easier or actually you know, move commerce via trucks.

it's designed to enrich those who benefit from all the graft and corruption.

I cannot wait to get the heck out of this state. (native)

What is it like to live somewhere that is already considered "ruined?" Do people in New York City or Los Angeles constantly bitch about changes to their city?

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Originally Posted by Irving

What is it like to live somewhere that is already considered "ruined?" Do people in New York City or Los Angeles constantly bitch about changes to their city?

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I think that would depend on the "people". People that are self-reliant, pro 2A, and don't like cities probably don't live in New York City. NYC has a demographic since it hasn't changed much for a while and is 'pre-broken'. Now you take a western state that was widely rural and had people that wanted to keep it that way that are now suddenly in a situation they weren't looking for...

Just not the same.