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I see one missing fan blade in that picture, that and the shrapnel from the engine cowl and anti-ice ducting is a lot of debris

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Originally Posted by hollohas

My point is, it wasn't perpendicular to the engine and that for such an extremely rare situation like this, your seat choice doesn't really matter.

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It does matter when the engine experiences a fan disk disintegration, as the high speed fragments will penetrate the fuselage in a perpendicular orientation. In this case, the failure appears to be loss of one or more blades, with the window damage caused by either primary or secondary debris. You are free to sit wherever you like.

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Originally Posted by .455_Hunter

It does matter when the engine experiences a fan disk disintegration, as the high speed fragments will penetrate the fuselage in a perpendicular orientation.

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Yabbut. At cruising speed, air is moving over the wing at over 800FPS (heck, I have a 255gr .45ACP bowling pin load that's slower than that!). This leads to an argument to sit exactly perpendicular to the fan blades because the lower mass, high velocity parts will be affected by the wind to a greater degree and swept back more quickly, and the higher mass, lower velocity parts will have more travel time to the fuselage causing them to be swept back as well.

I'm not suprised that the window that suffered the impact was so far behind the engine.

O2

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski

I'm pretty skinny and I cannot even imagine getting my shoulders outside a plane window, let alone down to my waist. No matter how big the pressure difference.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMHwri8TtNE

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Originally Posted by O2HeN2

Yabbut. At cruising speed, air is moving over the wing at over 800FPS (heck, I have a 255gr .45ACP bowling pin load that's slower than that!). This leads to an argument to sit exactly perpendicular to the fan blades because the lower mass, high velocity parts will be affected by the wind to a greater degree and swept back more quickly, and the higher mass, lower velocity parts will have more travel time to the fuselage causing them to be swept back as well.

I'm not suprised that the window that suffered the impact was so far behind the engine.

O2

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The cone of dispersion would have some bias towards the rear for a plane in flight, but not for a plane revving its engines for take-off . The nearly identical Southwest incident in 2016 resulted in a fuselage puncture that was nearly perpendicular to the fan unit. There are a lot of variables.

I was watching on the new this morning. The same thing happened on another South West plane in 2016, same failure of the fan blade on the same engine position.

RIP to the passenger and prayers up to her family.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski

I'm pretty skinny and I cannot even imagine getting my shoulders outside a plane window, let alone down to my waist. No matter how big the pressure difference.

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You're just not using your imagination. When the structures in your body, like bones, tendons, and ligaments are crushed and torn, it's amazing what opening your body can get sucked through. Just by breaking the clavicles, your shoulders can get very narrow.

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Originally Posted by SuperiorDG

Vultures fly as hight as 37,000 feet. Just saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...flight_heights

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Since they weren't flying over central Africa...nice try. [Coffee]

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Originally Posted by SuperiorDG

Vultures fly as hight as 37,000 feet. Just saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...flight_heights

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Lawyers can fly ?!?

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Originally Posted by Duman

Lawyers can fly ?!?

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Hey I’m pretty sure you’re being mean! [ROFL1]

To answer your question... yes, we can. As a matter of fact, I was piloting an Airbus out of Trenton, NJ yesterday morning not too long before the Southwest jet had issues. We landed with all our engines intact because that’s just how I roll.