Thoughts about Ukraine?

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

And we are still buying oil from the Rooskies

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And Iran.

We were net energy exporters just a little over a year ago. This is totally messed up.

NATO is a joke. They should just dissolve it and stop pretending. UN is a joke. Russia is a permanent member of the Security Council and can veto any action (and is currently serving as the president of the panel this month).

We can try and stay out of the fight and take an isolationist path, but if history is any indicator, the fight will still find us.

As to the point of honoring our word, I don't trust us, so I'm shocked any other country would trust us based on our recent actions.

Another note of interest, Russian trolling ops have specifically been trying to get trucker convoys started here. Any coincidence they start right as they invade the Ukraine? So many underestimate the scope of their influence in our social media.

RU is specifically targeting our supply chains. That is one if the easiest ways

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Originally Posted by FoxtArt

Another note of interest, Russian trolling ops have specifically been trying to get trucker convoys started here. Any coincidence they start right as they invade the Ukraine? So many underestimate the scope of their influence in our social media.

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Oh, nonsense. You're saying American truckers scheduled this based on when Russians told them to do it? I'm sure the Russians strategic plan certainly included "hey comrades, we should encourage a few dozen American truckers to drive cross country at the same time we invade Ukraine! Yeah, that'll increase our likelihood of total control two fold! It'll crush the Americans!" What an outlandish claim.

We don't underestimate their influence, you regularly give them WAY, WAY too much credit for the scope of influence they actually have. With zero evidence. How many of these groups do you actually follow on social media? Are you a member of any of these groups on social media? Are you on social media at all? You've seen sketchy social media accounts making posts in the social media groups egging them on?

There are Americans that have been working to get this going since the beginning of the pandemic. It didn't pick up steam until they saw what happened in Canada. Most of the convoys scheduled it to arrive in DC around the SOTU. Yup, those real Americans organizing these groups, giving radio and TV interviews, standing in front of the crowds at gathering points and giving speeches...they are Russian bots. Gotcha.

The US could just gift Ukraine small portable nuclear weapons. The Russian armored columns heading to the capital city would definitely be halted by this countermeasure. There could be no argument that these nuclear weapons were offensive in nature. They are not ICBM's etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specia...ition_Munition

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Originally Posted by hollohas

Oh, nonsense. You're saying American truckers scheduled this based on when Russians told them to do it? I'm sure the Russians strategic plan certainly included "hey comrades, we should encourage a few dozen American truckers to drive cross country at the same time we invade Ukraine! Yeah, that'll increase our likelihood of total control two fold! It'll crush the Americans!" What an outlandish claim.

We don't underestimate their influence, you regularly give them WAY, WAY too much credit for the scope of influence they actually have. With zero evidence. How many of these groups do you actually follow on social media? Are you a member of any of these groups on social media? Are you on social media at all? You've seen sketchy social media accounts making posts in the social media groups egging them on?

There are Americans that have been working to get this going since the beginning of the pandemic. It didn't pick up steam until they saw what happened in Canada. Most of the convoys scheduled it to arrive in DC around the SOTU. Yup, those real Americans organizing these groups, giving radio and TV interviews, standing in front of the crowds at gathering points and giving speeches...they are Russian bots. Gotcha.

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^^ This^^^

thanks, saved me some typing

Wow. Don't know if ya'll have seen the video of a guy's car getting crushed by some sort of armored vehicle (APC or tank or something), but apparently he lived.
https://notthebee.com/article/watch-...ently-survived

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Originally Posted by RblDiver

Wow. Don't know if ya'll have seen the video of a guy's car getting crushed by some sort of armored vehicle (APC or tank or something), but apparently he lived.
https://notthebee.com/article/watch-...ently-survived

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Devil's advocate, but that could be a Ukrainian tank. Everyone seems to say Russian, but there isn't a white line or z on it. Possible that dude just lost control. They were in a firefight st the time.

I know nuthin about tanks but that they are cool. But a ex tanker on another board was positive the situation was an out of control left sliding turn and the car was just wrong place wrong time. It is a Ukrainian vehicle but I have heard a variety of stories about who was driving it at the time. Anything from Ukrainians to Russies in stolen uniforms and a stolen tank sent to cause meyhem. Probably never know the truth.

Heard on the radio today that the sanctions do not include energy resources such as oil and natural gas being sold by Russia. Oil and gas can continue to be sold and special payment avenues have been established through the banks since some of the banks are sanctioned. So basically Putin can continue to do business.