7 CIA agents killed by double agent

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Originally Posted by Elhuero

The extremists hate us anyway. There's nothing we can do to make them not hate us.
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Personally, I think it would give a would-be suicide bomber pause to think instead of "well, I'll be dead but my family will be set up for life" to have the thought "well, I'll be dead and then the Americans will hunt down mom, dad, sissy, uncle abul and auntie hekkeba"

but then, that's me.

I'm weird.

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Actually, given your intended scenario, it's much more likely to be that because we've indiscriminately and randomly bombed a bunch of uninvolved people, we've recruited a bunch more bad guys from the vast majority of people who wouldn't really have cared in the first place. It's the same way that holding people in prison for years because they were sold to you for bounties pretty much ensures if they weren't America hating terrorists before, they certainly will be now.

It's not rocket science -- reverse the positions and put your innocent self in the scenario. What would you do if BigGov put you in jail wrongly for many years, or killed all your family because one of the neighbors was a criminal?

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Originally Posted by Elhuero

I never said anything about raping.



Honor killings are repugnant, more so than rap music, and I'll be damned if that's the type of "diversity" I will respect. (you can all you want)

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I said something about raping. If in addition to bombing public places, terrorists would select an entire family to rape and kill, would that get the point across to you that you should leave them alone?

Also, not a single person in this thread has said anything about respecting diversity, but you are confusing the acceptance of gross human rights violations with accepting cultural differences. Let's get real.

Also, just out of curiosity, what would it take to convince you to go into Iran and blow yourself up in the middle of a market? No restrictions, financially, threats against your family, the key to your favorite brothel, etc. Be creative and really consider what it would take to get you to blow yourself up in a public place in another country. Think about it long and hard, then get back to me.

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Originally Posted by Elhuero

pardon my french, but


holy shit. you believe that crap?

you are a doofus.

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That's quite a statement there. Assuming you've done no research. Give me some logical reasons why I'm a doofus for holding to those beliefs. So far you're at 0! You act like as if have the upper ground already. Man up and give some reasons! You're the doofus for beleiving whatever is fed into your mouth for you to eat and repeat. Is the government your mommy that you trust? Is it beyond you're imagination for the government to tell a lie? You need to hold your toung and see what you're saying before you say it, like the rest of us well respected americans.

Fellow members of the board, Please pardon my indignant tone.

Logical reasons? The most logical reason against it being a controlled demolition is that to rig both towers for controlled demolition would have taken months and hundreds of technicians, but none of that work was ever witnessed and none of those technicians have ever come forward.

cause they are dead.

The problem with conspiracy theories is that you start with a ridiculous conclusion, and work backwards, picking and choosing some facts and leaving out others in order to arrive at the conclusion that you originally imagined. If you just laid out the fact from beginning to end, there is no way you'd even come close to whatever wacky conspiracy.

I've been hearing all the most common conspiracy theories for 9/11 since it happened, I've yet to ever have anyone even attempt to tell me what the US government would gain by slamming planes into buildings.

By creating a false scenario, the government can control the people through fear and deciet.
You think it's the first time that a gov. has started a war for no apparent reason?

Another reason to grab your freedoms.

That doesn't seem strong enough for me. It only takes the death of one person to start a war, did they need to disrupt the entire national economy to start a war? Not likely.

Why not?

The NWO has to have an impact on the World to be able to convince the masses to jump on board.

Oh, you mean the NWO that will be able to supercede our constitution once they actually have a standing army because Obama made that EO to allow interpol to do so?

I see how it all fits together so nicely now. Now all we have to do is fit contrails into the equation some how. We already know that the planes delivering the contrails take off and land on the swastika shaped run ways at DIA because it has a secret NWO military base underneath it, evidenced by that keystone with the Mason symbol on it. Anything I'm missing here?