Is it too soon? Maes needs to get out!

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Originally Posted by OneGuy67

On that point my gun totin' friend, we can agree![Alrigh]

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Tom said he would step out if Maes steps out but it may be too late now.

Poundstone / Boyles have Maes by the short curlies. Maes is a con and he conned me. I'm still happy the establishment candidate (McInnis) is out but I am pissed at Maes.

I don't know if the ballots are printed yet, they have to get printed so our soldiers can get them and return in time for the election.

We're running out of time and the Republicans are running out of time to replace Maes.

Hickenlooper is a POS, he is a crap mayor and he'll be a horrible governor.

Yes, we have been handed a crap pile for the governor's race. There is no good ending for it.

Maes sucks.

Tancredo is a one trick pony.

Hickenlooper is a shockingly lib liberal.

What do you do?

I heard Sen. Schultheis on Peter Boyles this morning talking about Maes and he kept getting hung up on the fact they shared values. It didn't matter that Maes is corrupt, a liar, and has zero grasp on how state government works as Boyles pointed out a number of issues; all that mattered to Schultheis is that they had common core values that he could support.

Is that how you feel? It doesn't matter how empty of ethics and morals a candidate is as long as he shares your values, you'll vote for him?

I don't want Hickenlooper as the next governor, but I can say, he hasn't fallen down on his ethics or morals. We definitely do not agree on values, on issues and especially how he donates his money, but he does appear to be the person who stands on higher ethical ground.

Once again, my $.02

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Originally Posted by Ranger

I don't necessarily believe that Tancredo is a lib plant - while I think it's possible, it's not really plausible. I'm not quite THAT tin-hat but leave a little bit of foil over just in case :)

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Tancredo is just trying to jump on the tea party bandwagon IMO.

And an honest question here for the people that said it: why is Hickenlooper a POS and a shitty mayor, and why would he be a terrible governor? Is it just that he would align himself more with the democratic party as a governor, because at that level, party does begin to trump person, or are there other reasons? Just because he's a democrat? You don't like a particular policy of his? etc...

I've always thought that he has done a pretty decent job in Denver, so I'm honestly curious, and not trying to start anything.

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Originally Posted by ghettodub

And an honest question here for the people that said it: why is Hickenlooper a POS and a shitty mayor, and why would he be a terrible governor? Is it just that he would align himself more with the democratic party as a governor, because at that level, party does begin to trump person, or are there other reasons?

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This is my own personal opinion, supported only by information obtained from various sources.

I think Hickenlooper is a very liberal democrat, who will attempt to advance the democratic agenda. I do not like what he has done in Denver in regards to pumping tons of money into social programs that didn't work (his homeless agenda is an example), into social programs that I do not share his idealogue on such as needle exchanges. I do not like how he outright lied about his conversations with the police union and then went to the press and complained that the budget woes were the unions fault and not his. I do not like his soft stance of immigration issues and used his office to apply pressure to the police department and soften their impact on the illegal aliens they came across during their normal, everyday course of business.

In regards to the racial beatings last year, I do not know for certain if he was informed by the police department of the ongoing issues. If he had updated knowledge of the investigation(s) and chose to remain quiet, then he has some personal responsibility in the events. In the agencies I've worked in, we investigators would only brief our superiors and if that information moved upwards to command staff and then across to civilian authorities, I didn't know.

I am leery of Hickenlooper bringing those liberal agendas to the governor's office.

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Originally Posted by OneGuy67

This is my own personal opinion, supported only by information obtained from various sources.

I think Hickenlooper is a very liberal democrat, who will attempt to advance the democratic agenda. I do not like what he has done in Denver in regards to pumping tons of money into social programs that didn't work (his homeless agenda is an example), into social programs that I do not share his idealogue on such as needle exchanges. I do not like how he outright lied about his conversations with the police union and then went to the press and complained that the budget woes were the unions fault and not his. I do not like his soft stance of immigration issues and used his office to apply pressure to the police department and soften their impact on the illegal aliens they came across during their normal, everyday course of business.

In regards to the racial beatings last year, I do not know for certain if he was informed by the police department of the ongoing issues. If he had updated knowledge of the investigation(s) and chose to remain quiet, then he has some personal responsibility in the events. In the agencies I've worked in, we investigators would only brief our superiors and if that information moved upwards to command staff and then across to civilian authorities, I didn't know.

I am leery of Hickenlooper bringing those liberal agendas to the governor's office.

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Right on, I just wanted to hear some reasoning on why. I run across so many people who just blindly vote or choose "just because" and don't have any real reason on why. [Beer]

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Originally Posted by ghettodub

Tancredo is just trying to jump on the tea party bandwagon IMO.

And an honest question here for the people that said it: why is Hickenlooper a POS and a shitty mayor, and why would he be a terrible governor? Is it just that he would align himself more with the democratic party as a governor, because at that level, party does begin to trump person, or are there other reasons? Just because he's a democrat? You don't like a particular policy of his? etc...

I've always thought that he has done a pretty decent job in Denver, so I'm honestly curious, and not trying to start anything.

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First and foremost, your avatar rocks! One of the best I've seen.

I don't have much to say about Hickenlooper other than I don't appreciate his efforts to make Denver a "safe haven" for illegals.

Who was the jerk responsible for flying planes around San Diego with a large sign that said "Denver Loves California!"

Ritter, and Hicky?

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Originally Posted by OneGuy67

This is my own personal opinion, supported only by information obtained from various sources.

I think Hickenlooper is a very liberal democrat, who will attempt to advance the democratic agenda. I do not like what he has done in Denver in regards to pumping tons of money into social programs that didn't work (his homeless agenda is an example), into social programs that I do not share his idealogue on such as needle exchanges. I do not like how he outright lied about his conversations with the police union and then went to the press and complained that the budget woes were the unions fault and not his. I do not like his soft stance of immigration issues and used his office to apply pressure to the police department and soften their impact on the illegal aliens they came across during their normal, everyday course of business.

In regards to the racial beatings last year, I do not know for certain if he was informed by the police department of the ongoing issues. If he had updated knowledge of the investigation(s) and chose to remain quiet, then he has some personal responsibility in the events. In the agencies I've worked in, we investigators would only brief our superiors and if that information moved upwards to command staff and then across to civilian authorities, I didn't know.

I am leery of Hickenlooper bringing those liberal agendas to the governor's office.

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Excellent response - what I think and I'll add little.

Hickenlooper refuses to acknowledge any responsibility in the death of Officer Donnie Young.

Hickenlooper refuses to disclose that his Chinook Fund provided funds either to Hamas directly or to Hamas indirectly.

Hickenlooper does not care if the CITIZENS of Denver are kept appraised and from harm due to actions of illegal aliens and gang members.

Hickenlooper will not appears on talk shows to be asked hard questions - this shows me that Hickenlooper has no backbone and that he knows that if he gives honest answers his bid for governor is over.

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Originally Posted by roberth

Excellent response - what I think and I'll add little.

Hickenlooper refuses to acknowledge any responsibility in the death of Officer Donnie Young.

Hickenlooper refuses to disclose that his Chinook Fund provided funds either to Hamas directly or to Hamas indirectly.

Hickenlooper does not care if the CITIZENS of Denver are kept appraised and from harm due to actions of illegal aliens and gang members.

Hickenlooper will not appears on talk shows to be asked hard questions - this shows me that Hickenlooper has no backbone and that he knows that if he gives honest answers his bid for governor is over.

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You beat me to it, right on the mark.