Long term self sustaining food and water plans?

Couldn't a hand pump work for your water well if you couldn,t keep a solar system going long term? You remember the old metal hand pumps you see on farms?

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Originally Posted by J Tactical Firearms

Couldn't a hand pump work for your water well if you couldn,t keep a solar system going long term? You remember the old metal hand pumps you see on farms?

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Treadle pump would probably be even better, but they are only good for 7 meters.

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Originally Posted by J Tactical Firearms

Good observation. Good thing I was thinking about long term solar. Since power might be a requirement you would need a solar setup that might possibly have to last forever or at least be repairable post civilization.

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if this is to be truly off of the grid, I have a suggestion you might not like.

http://image.made-in-china.com/5f2j0...Water-Pump.jpg

reality is that if your solar system fails, you die.
There are so many things from a simple circuit failure to a "Solar Disruption" Scenario that will render an electric/solar system useless.
Then there is the shelf life issue of batteries. Current draw, Motor life, etc.

a little more work, allot more reliable.