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My reaction would have been to see that guy coming and moved to a position that would not allow the guy to yank on my gun without resistance from me in some manner. Whether I am armed or not, I am very aware of everybody around me at all times and position myself so that no one can come upon me unawares.
As my father always said, "People are no damn good."
If that is the case the next discussion should be around banning Earl from the store. Talk about a good chance of a nd or of someone getting killed in the attempt to reclaim their firearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
fixed it for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
I'm looking at it from the old man's POV... not excusing what he did, but maybe he's seen this guy before, maybe he's tired of seeing him not pay enough attention to what's going on around him, etc... you'd think that to get him so pissed to do something that reckless, there would have to be more than just casually noticing a stranger wasn't paying attention.
I also get the impression that by the time the kid knew it was going on, the mag was already dropped.
But chances are we're not hearing the full story here. Don't get me wrong, he's a douche for doing it- and I wouldn't do it myself. But I'll learn from the kid's mistake that somebody may TRY it if you're not paying attention.
So if I was truly unaware, and it went down like described, I would have cursed myself for being so lackadaisical in my awareness- then taken it as a lesson.
I don't open carry in public generally, and my open carry holsters (I only have 2) are retention holsters. Only times I can remember OC'ing is when hiking, or working on my own private property. I'll echo the sentiments of others that I try to blend in rather than stand out.
ETA: When I think about it, I'm pretty sure this is why I don't like crowds, it gets tiring constantly watching for threats, when new ones are milling about constantly. Maybe I'd rather be jumped by a Grizzly in the woods, it's more.... familar :-)
I guess that would depend on whether I was the open carrying kid, the ballsy old man, or one of the slack-jawed bystanders.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadAmberg
I haven't open carried since I was in uniform. I don't touch other people's guns without permission (holstered gun is like genitalia - shouldn't be handled in public). I have been known to be slack-jawed on occasion. As a slack-jawed bystander, I would just stand there and stare, by definition.
Be safe.
By far the most honest answer so far...[ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone
Anyone who has served knows full well that anyone that goes for YOUR weapon, usually gets dealt with in a very violent way. As such the kid may have been inexperienced and therefore had no business open carrying in the first place. On the other hand the old guy could have handled the situation far better. Especially if he is an experienced gun owner/operator. Its about respect/ responsibilitythe old guy should have never put his hands on another persons firearm PERIOD! it would have to greater purpose to offer to 1 educate the lad or 2 offer ideas of where to get proper training if it was that big a deal. While maybe not his responsibilty to educate the young man it could have been dealt with in a better way.
I probably would have stood there dumfounded at my own stupidity for letting someone get that close to me and get a hold of my weapon.
the funny and totally unrealistic side of me says I would follow him outside, shoot out his tires, put one in the engine block and ask him if he was going to follow me, how the fuck would he do it now?
Stupid old fuck took an incredibly stupid risk to pull an incredibly stupid stunt. He should be banned from the shop forever at the very least. He's damn lucky he didn't get shot by someone else, or at least drawn down on and put to the floor, then hauled away in cuffs. A quick and violent reaction by ANYONE nearby certainly would have been warranted, IMO.
Let's hope he realized the foolishness and stupidity of his action, and doesn't try it again. Next time, he might not be so lucky, and try it with someone who'll fuck him up in 1.5 seconds.
Did anyone follow the link to the original forum post? I was really confused while reading it, like some posts were deleted. Some references were that the old guy who took the gun was actually a cop, it's not very clear.