the holmes case

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

According to the witnesses his AR jammed and he had no clue how to correct it. Thanks to his lack of training and knowledge the spree ended and I fear more lives would have been lost had he not had a malfunction or had some basic firearms training.

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Too bad one of the people in there didn't clear it and ventilate his ass

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Originally Posted by GilpinGuy

I wrote that he should get a trial. And a fair one at that. IF he's found guilty without any possibility of doubt, string him up right after the verdict is read.

Maybe I'm off base here. Does the Constitution prohibit the immediate execution of convicted murderers following a fair trial?

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The law allows appeals on reasonable grounds. What constitutes reasonable grounds is what has been blown completely out of proportion.

I have a question. Official reports and such point to he was wearing a "tactical vest" which to me means a vest with lots of pouches for mags and such. No armor. But all the "chatter", especially the anti-CCW crap, says he was armored up and you couldn't shoot him.

Which is true as far as we can tell? Has any official sources referred to kevlar or plates? Or just tactical vest and such?

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Originally Posted by ChadAmberg

I have a question. Official reports and such point to he was wearing a "tactical vest" which to me means a vest with lots of pouches for mags and such. No armor. But all the "chatter", especially the anti-CCW crap, says he was armored up and you couldn't shoot him.

Which is true as far as we can tell? Has any official sources referred to kevlar or plates? Or just tactical vest and such?

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yeah this is a bit confusing. He was probably wearing the vest over his armor... but like everything else right now, just speculation.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

yeah this is a bit confusing. He was probably wearing the vest over his armor... but like everything else right now, just speculation.

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Here's a pic of what's being put out somewhere:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...56220965_n.jpg

No reference to armor, just tactical vest.
I'm really starting to think there was no armor at all.

Well they got the guns right lol. The mask was just a regular one, not some high speed version shown there.

To a news reporter, a 'tactical vest' is probably equivalent to 'ballistic armor'. You know, just like an FA AR is the same thing as a slingshot.

What a ridiculous mock-up. I seriously doubt he stormed in there looking like Judge Dredd, but this kind of shit is created for entertainment value, not journalism.

By the way, this whole thing reminded me of a pretty disturbing movie (can't remember the name, sorry) I caught on Netflix several months ago, where a pretty bright, but psychotic kid executes a well-planned scheme to dress in body armor, arm himself to the teeth, and massacre most of an entire town. If you find this movie, be warned you will be very pissed off when you get to the end of it. In light of the recent and very similar event so close to home, I don't think I could watch it again.

I haven't been following this much. But I think a good punishment would be burned alive on a stake with the 12 families shooting him with a .22...no headshots allowed. Payback is a bitch.

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

What a ridiculous mock-up. I seriously doubt he stormed in there looking like Judge Dredd, but this kind of shit is created for entertainment value, not journalism.

By the way, this whole thing reminded me of a pretty disturbing movie (can't remember the name, sorry) I caught on Netflix several months ago, where a pretty bright, but psychotic kid executes a well-planned scheme to dress in body armor, arm himself to the teeth, and massacre most of an entire town. If you find this movie, be warned you will be very pissed off when you get to the end of it. In light of the recent and very similar event so close to home, I don't think I could watch it again.

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Was it Rampage? I think it was a Uwe Boll crapfest.