RANT against Craigslist ad. Tell me this isnt one of you. Land Owner tag realted.

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I feel that if you own the land you should have free reign to do what you want on that land. Including killing any animals on your property that you find to be either a problem or just plain tasty.

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Nope. Maybe coyotes and other pests, but not game animals. And, yes, I do own land with plenty of turkeys and deer, but we leave them alone unless we have a license for them. The game licensing system works pretty well, let's just leave it alone.

Also, I have a cousin who is a rancher. He doesn't make "a lot of money" on anything, but he manages his resources so he can make a living off the land. Wheat, hay, cattle and hunting (he's an outfitter too). You need to use all the resources of your land to make it pay, especially with what land costs these days. You just have to hope that a bad wheat crop will be offset by a decent price for beef, or vice versa.

I was never implying that I think we should be able to kill whatever was on our land. I agree the system is more or less working. I just find it ridiculous some people think landowners shouldnt get a special deal. If my neighbor has a herd of 100-200 antelope eating his grass, selling him a tag to harvest a couple per year isnt too much to ask. Me I never have more than 13 or so in the herd that frequents my place.

It makes me mad you have to own 160 acres to get LO tags, and the Outfitters lately think all of CO is their private reserve. I'm tired of putting up signs, tired of people telling me "I didn't know it was private property". Fuck people in general. Wish I could by land mines.

Wish instead of giving more LO tags, they would make it for 50 or more acres:)

I think this bill should not be passed as well. The DOW and the biologists should make the decisions, not some misinformed fuckstain beurocrats that do not listen to logic or reason when it comes to constitutional rights. How are they going to decide something on that which they don't listen to the experts.

The DOW was amazing at its job before they were forced to join with the parks. The parks were always in the Red. The DOW was always in the black.

Hello!!!!!!!!! Playing by the rules is for suckers. Look around. Pick any subject.

do what you need to do about animals depredating your livestock.

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

I was never implying that I think we should be able to kill whatever was on our land. I agree the system is more or less working. I just find it ridiculous some people think landowners shouldnt get a special deal. If my neighbor has a herd of 100-200 antelope eating his grass, selling him a tag to harvest a couple per year isnt too much to ask. Me I never have more than 13 or so in the herd that frequents my place.

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This seems to be a pretty important part of this. Landowners still have to purchase the tags.

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

the red portion is the craigslist ad. the below portion is my RANT Beware swearing offensive language below.

You have to be kidding me. So, if us landowners get extra tags we are getting rich? FUCK YOU. its not our fault some city fucks spend all their money on dildos and starbucks coffee. We spend our money on LAND. I have antelope on my property daily. They eat the grass that my cows should be eating. That costs me money in feed. And yet, I dont get to shoot antelope. I have to wait and get 7 years worth of preference points (or whatever it is now). If you want to protest landowner tags. FU Buy, some damn land and shut the fuck up.

This is something some communist piece of shit fuck stain would say. "private individuals and land owners should give us their stuff" because...


i dont think its fair that I cant hunt geese in denver by the zoo. I dont think its fair they wont let me do an "African Safari" hunt at the zoo.

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I'll come shoot a speed goat on your property if you let me...Seriously, PM me.

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Originally Posted by sniper7

I think this bill should not be passed as well. The DOW and the biologists should make the decisions, not some misinformed fuckstain beurocrats that do not listen to logic or reason when it comes to constitutional rights. How are they going to decide something on that which they don't listen to the experts.

The DOW was amazing at its job before they were forced to join with the parks. The parks were always in the Red. The DOW was always in the black.

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+1 Lickenstupid and the dems wanted to merge the two because of the state run bureaucracy was in the red. I am tired of the socialist political experiments. I will not be purchasing a hunting or fishing license in Colorado... I'll take my business to WY.

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

http://fortcollins.craigslist.org/spo/3673159765.html


Deer, elk and pronghorn landowner vouchers! - $1 (Colorado)



Colorado Parks and Wildlife is trying to give more of your hunting tags to landowners.

Senate bill 13-188 proposes to raise the percentage of tags landowners receive west of I-25 from 15% to 20%, and east of I-25 to 25%. Think about how this will affect your chances to draw tags in years to come!

Please write or call your Representatives and Senators and urge them to vote NO on SB13-188. And while you're at it, write the Director of Colorado Parks and Wildlife, Rick Cables, and tell him he should be ashamed of himself for selling out the average hunter to line the pockets of landowners and outfitters.

This bill will pass and you will never get those lost tags back if you don't email and call today!

the red portion is the craigslist ad. the below portion is my RANT Beware swearing offensive language below.

You have to be kidding me. So, if us landowners get extra tags we are getting rich? FUCK YOU. its not our fault some city fucks spend all their money on dildos and starbucks coffee. We spend our money on LAND. I have antelope on my property daily. They eat the grass that my cows should be eating. That costs me money in feed. And yet, I dont get to shoot antelope. I have to wait and get 7 years worth of preference points (or whatever it is now). If you want to protest landowner tags. FU Buy, some damn land and shut the fuck up.

This is something some communist piece of shit fuck stain would say. "private individuals and land owners should give us their stuff" because...


i dont think its fair that I cant hunt geese in denver by the zoo. I dont think its fair they wont let me do an "African Safari" hunt at the zoo.

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As a 3rd generation landowner who has supported (read fed and provided habitat) wildlife in Co., I have not been able to draw under landowner preference for Antelope or Deer on my property with less than 4 points. I do not always wish to harvest an animal, but as I a, the sole provider on my land, I do wish that I could at least stalk them. We also stand 100% of damage done to crops by this game. We did try the Div of Wildlife damage claim procedure, but it is rendered pretty much useless in Eastern Co.

Personally, I do not believe that I have the right to sell tags.......I understand that is one manner in which to recover some of the costs of damage, I just don't like it any better than outfitters selling licenses.

Do to such opinions as the above, that are more and more prevalent each year, we chose last year to close our 20,000 + acres of land to hunting. In the past, anyone that would ask permission BEFORE they hunted, were granted such. We have thought the years, also allowed a large number of people the chance to use some areas for recreational shooting.

Continued feelings that as landowners we may provide all that is necessary for the survival as well as the betterment of all game, yet we should have a lesser chance for draw under land owner preference than others, will continue to promote a growing feeling of disregard directed to us.


Your choice, and many of you have made it, and sadly, others who still respect the contribution that landowners make, will continue to find areas open for hunting and recreation continue to shrink.


Cuss or discuss at your will, as I have presented my points, and will leave this thread alone.


For those of you who will give this thought without emotion, I Thank You for that.