Colorado form 1 & 4 transfer data / wait times

Paper Form 4
Trust
Mailed 10/25/2014
Received 10/28/2014
Check cashed 10/30/2014

derp

Paper form 4

Trust

Mailed 6/17/14

Approved 11/6/14

Sending out two more tomorrow...

Attachment 52747


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

Not Colorado, but down here in New Mexico

4- form 1's
2- SBR
2- Suppressor
Efile
Trust
Applied 10-16-14
Approved 11-25-14

Form 4 filed on paper for a trust to obtain Colt 6933 with 11.5" barrel

Mailed- 05-29-2014
Check Cashed- 06-30-2014
Received Stamp- 12-02-2014

Paper Form 4- Trust
Mailed- 07-12-2014
Check Cashed- 07-21-2014
Received Stamp- 12-10-2014

Form 4
Trust
Tbac 30 BA and 22L1
Both mailed 8/2/14
Checks cleared 8/14/14
Pending 9/5/14
Received Stamps @ dealer on 12/10/14


So 4 months and a couple days

Jeebus, a dealer transfer just took 8 flippin weeks. WTF?

Yeah I was pleasantly surprised, I'm sure the holidays will slow things down a bit, but things are definitely looking brighter.

Form 1 submitted this morning. 12/27 It's listed as PENDING RESEARCH. Will call monday or tues.

I have had a couple "PENDING RESEARCH" Form 1's. One was for a SBR built on a 80% receiver. After 10 days it went to "SUBMITTED/IN PROGRESS" without me doing anything. 4 weeks later I got my "APPROVED" email E-Stamp. The other was a because the manufactures name on my gun didn't match what was on their approved manufacturers list. They emailed me requesting pictures of the manufacturers name engraved on the gun. I moved to "SUBMITTED/IN PROGRESS" the same day I sent the pictures. 4 weeks to then get my E Stamp. As a weirdness on that one- I received the approval email at 9:16 pm last Sunday (Dec. 21).

For what it's worth- I get excellent pictures of the engraving on guns using a flatbed scanner.

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Originally Posted by SAnd

I have had a couple "PENDING RESEARCH" Form 1's. One was for a SBR built on a 80% receiver. After 10 days it went to "SUBMITTED/IN PROGRESS" without me doing anything. 4 weeks later I got my "APPROVED" email E-Stamp. The other was a because the manufactures name on my gun didn't match what was on their approved manufacturers list. They emailed me requesting pictures of the manufacturers name engraved on the gun. I moved to "SUBMITTED/IN PROGRESS" the same day I sent the pictures. 4 weeks to then get my E Stamp. As a weirdness on that one- I received the approval email at 9:16 pm last Sunday (Dec. 21).

For what it's worth- I get excellent pictures of the engraving on guns using a flatbed scanner.

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Following a few different BYO threads, i put FM1 in the manufactures box. It's for a suppressor build ;)

I submitted my 80% with my trust name and address the 4a box. It came back with "FORM1 REGISTRATION, UNITED STATES" in the 4a box.

I'm guessing that anything submitted with something entered that doesn't match some preapproved entry will get kicked over to a human. Hopefully someone will look it over and change it to whatever they prefer soon. My second example where the name didn't match had a timeline of e-filed at 2am, email to me asking for pictures at 9am, I replied with pictures at 9:20am, received an email notice of "SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS" about 4:00pm the same day. I hope you get a notice that yours changes to submitted within a couple days.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Following a few different BYO threads, i put FM1 in the manufactures box. It's for a suppressor build ;)

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Originally Posted by SAnd

I submitted my 80% with my trust name and address the 4a box. It came back with "FORM1 REGISTRATION, UNITED STATES" in the 4a box.

I'm guessing that anything submitted with something entered that doesn't match some preapproved entry will get kicked over to a human. Hopefully someone will look it over and change it to whatever they prefer soon. My second example where the name didn't match had a timeline of e-filed at 2am, email to me asking for pictures at 9am, I replied with pictures at 9:20am, received an email notice of "SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS" about 4:00pm the same day. I hope you get a notice that yours changes to submitted within a couple days.

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OH YEAH

This is to advise you that the status of your eForms submission with the subject Permit/Control number has changed to SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS

Form 4
Trust
Silencerco Saker762
Pending 9/22/14
Approved 1/28/15
To Dealer ?

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Originally Posted by drew890

Form 4
Trust
Silencerco Saker762
Pending 9/22/14
Approved 1/28/15
To Dealer ?

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if your FFL didn't have it in stock. Then yes that's to FFL from mfg / vendor. It's also the Form 3. IF you got a F 4 approved in 4 months i'm doing another factory SBR, maybe.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Following a few different BYO threads, i put FM1 in the manufactures box. It's for a suppressor build ;)

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Here's how it worked for me:
In the "manufacturer" section, I clicked mfg code, not name. I entered FM1 many times, as was suggested by several trusted sources, to no avail. The proper code is actually FMI (letter i , not number 1). This immediately populates the field with "Form 1 registration, United States"
Hope this helps.
It IS batfe so YMMV.

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Originally Posted by crays

Here's how it worked for me:
In the "manufacturer" section, I clicked mfg code, not name. I entered FM1 many times, as was suggested by several trusted sources, to no avail. The proper code is actually FMI (letter i , not number 1). This immediately populates the field with "Form 1 registration, United States"
Hope this helps.
It IS batfe so YMMV.

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Didn't i say that last time we talked? You need to enter FM1. HOWEVER within the last 30 days / new year the Efile info may have been updated, due to the massive influx of BYO suppressors.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Didn't i say that last time we talked? You need to enter FM1. HOWEVER within the last 30 days / new year the Efile info may have been updated, due to the massive influx of BYO suppressors.

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I wasn't calling anyone out. FM1 doesn't garner immediate results. FMI results in immediate cell population.
And you need to specify mfg CODE, not mfg NAME (which is the default).

Just relaying my experience. Not trying to ruffle feathers.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Didn't i say that last time we talked? You need to enter FM1. HOWEVER within the last 30 days / new year the Efile info may have been updated, due to the massive influx of BYO suppressors.

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In further response, yes, you and John both told me FM1, and you showed me how it ultimately populated the form. I'm merely relaying the result I got by selecting Code and entering FMI.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

if your FFL didn't have it in stock. Then yes that's to FFL from mfg / vendor. It's also the Form 3. IF you got a F 4 approved in 4 months i'm doing another factory SBR, maybe.

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You misunderstand. The suppressor is already on a form 3 with my dealer waiting to be picked up by me. The question mark signifies the unknown time that it will take for the actual form 4 hard copy to be received by my dealer. But yes, my form 4 only took 4 months.

Yeap, Form 4's seem to be trending in the 4 month range from everything I'm finding around the interwebs, and both mine submitted in August were within a few days of 4 months.

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Originally Posted by drew890

You misunderstand. The suppressor is already on a form 3 with my dealer waiting to be picked up by me. The question mark signifies the unknown time that it will take for the actual form 4 hard copy to be received by my dealer. But yes, my form 4 only took 4 months.

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30 days max from time approval is given to receipt of paperwork from ATF. It usually runs 3 - 14 business days.

Form 4
Trust
AAC 556-SD
Purch 09/29/2015
Dealer-Dealer Form 3 filed 10/13/2014
Dealer shipped 12/10/2014
Dealer received 12/15/2014
Form 4 filed 1/15/2014
Check cashed 01/22/2015
Pending
Approved 4/22/15 (dealer notice)

1. NFA Item: Suppressor X2
2. Form Type: 4 - Trust
3. Form Sent: 01/31/2015
3a. USPS notified form delivered to BATFE 02/02/2015
4. Checks Cashed: 2/5/2015
5. Pending Date: Never notified
6. Approved: 4/25/2015
7. Dealer received approval: 5/7/2015
8. Date Received: 5/8/2015
Examiner: Looks like Jon L. Hill?

NFA - SUPPRESSOR
FORM 1
SUBMITTED 12/29/14
APPROVED 2/2/15

36 Days from EFile. taking in to account the new years day / weekend. Off to file another F1 suppressor.

Form 4 Trust:

Submitted: 10/3/14
Check Cashed: 10/9/2014
Approved: 1/15/15
Stamp Arrived: 2/3/15

Was starting to wonder what happened between the approval and the stamp arriving but it finally made it!

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Originally Posted by Gunner

Paper Form 4
Trust
Mailed 10/25/2014
Received 10/28/2014
Check cashed 10/30/2014

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Just got a text from Tim my stamp is in
That was pretty fast

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Originally Posted by Gunner

Just got a text from Tim my stamp is in
That was pretty fast

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Congrats - wait times are improving.

Ooh, exciting! Cashed my check on 11/13 for a trust/suppressor.
I should be getting close...tick, tick, tick,

Early B-day & Valentines present from the spouse. Even though the process is "fairly" smooth. One holds their breath (so to speak) Till the APPROVED e-mail arrives.

This is to advise you that the status of your eForms submission with the subject Permit/Control number has changed to SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS
Submission Date: 2015-02-14-05:00

Form 1 for SBR e-filed on 1/8. Approved 2/17. Not to shabby.

Now if I only had a way to make my own suppressors that would be really sweet.

Form 1 E file, SBR, Trust.

Submitted late in the day on 1/8.

Approved 2/18.

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Originally Posted by Dave_L

Form 1 E file, SBR, Trust.

Submitted late in the day on 1/8.
Approved 2/18.

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This Efile stuff is bad. Now i'm checking my email in box 2x a day.

Tell me about it. It was my first stamp. Every day I'd wake up thinking "Today might be the day!". Time to get the next one in the queue.

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Originally Posted by Dave_L

Form 1 E file, SBR, Trust.

Submitted late in the day on 1/8.

Approved 2/18.

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I filed 1/13/15. [Flower]

I should probably file my 300BLK SBR now that I've decided on the barrel.

Question for the brain trust. On my 7.5" SBR submissions I used 26" overall. Does it make sense if I'm filing a 9" to just use 27.5" for the overall length or is 26" some magic number to use?

Tax stamp in hand update...

Purchase date 11/03/14
Check cashed 11/13/14 (apparently they really needed the money)
Signed off 2/05/15
Picked up TBAC 2/23/15

So, signed off 3 months after purchase date.

Not bad! Already tried it on the Remmy 700/.308, yes, oh, yes, it looks goooood. I got a little aroused. I'll admit it. Now, here's the problem. Do you remember the feeling after, late on Xmas morning, after all the presents were open, you had already played, at least once, with all those aforementioned presents, and this dark, disturbing feeling came over you...after SOOO much waiting and anticip.........ation, "ummm, what now?"
Yeah, it's like that. I don't have anything in the pipe. I don't need any more suppressors. I have no desire for an SBR, grenade launcher, full auto...okay, I lied a bit right there, but I don't have the coin for that dream.

So, Now what?
(BTW, Jenny says, "oh great, now they'll tell you!)

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Originally Posted by brutal

I filed 1/13/15. [Flower]

I should probably file my 300BLK SBR now that I've decided on the barrel.

Question for the brain trust. On my 7.5" SBR submissions I used 26" overall. Does it make sense if I'm filing a 9" to just use 27.5" for the overall length or is 26" some magic number to use?

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Go with 28" you can go smaller on the gun. Over the number submitted, without applying for (what ever it's called) possible problems.

Thanks, already submitted with 9" and 27.5" earlier today. With a tape, that's what it is on my existing evil SBR. Of course, I never mounted that upper to any other lower so it could be off a bit I guess. [panic]

Expect the last one filed 1-13-15 to drop into my inbox any day now... tick tock.


I still find it odd that it's the length with the stock extended.

Form 1
Trust
SBR
Submitted 1-13-15
Approved 2-25-15
Examiner: Jason Bowers

damn DRAFT watermark on stamp. Now I have to contact them and the site is down right now for daily maintenance!! Arrgghh.