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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hilla...ry?id=36534796Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
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At a campaign event in Deocorah, Iowa on Tuesday, Hillary Clinton lit up when a voter asked her if she would consider appointing the president to the Supreme Court should she win the White House.
"Wow, what a great idea. No one has ever suggested that to me, I love that, wow," the Democratic presidential candidate responded. "He may have a few other things to do but I tell you that's a great idea."
Okay, but besides a lying politician buttering up a voter?
I can never keep it straight from posters here whether the Obamas and Clintons hate each other or not.
I have nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I can't tell if the obama/cliniton hate thing is a ploy or truth either, probably some of both.
They actually do have a packed schedule every year and the common 5-4 split worries folks about a continually 4-4 divided SCOTUS. I would note however that a lot of Anthony Kennedy's liberal decisions seem to come from his delight in being the vote that makes the difference so I'd be looking for the places where his decision turns a 4-4 tie into a 5-3 decision. In addition, they are in a weird place right now where they've heard a lot of the cases they are going to decide on but are still working on writing the decisions. Conversely, there will be a lot of cases to review next year starting on the First Monday in October that any new Justice being nominated and reviewed in Feb/Mar 2017 will not have a chance to hear. Having said that, I think the real rush on Obama's part is two-fold: 1) the off-chance that he can pack the court to preserve the extra-constitutional crap he's done and 2) as a hammer against the GOP during election season.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Oh, they hate each other alright, there's plenty of evidence for that. However, they also recognized they had power bases in different wings of the party and more-or-less needed each other. Obama would have lost both elections if the Clinton wing had packed up and stayed home the way Lugar's faction did when a Tea Partier beat him in the primary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
You'd be hard pressed to make this story up for a political novel.
- Justice declines Marshall Security service.
- Justice is described as energetic and entertaining by other guests prior to going to bed.
- Owner of ranch describes finding him with pillow over his head, un-wrinkled clothes, looking like he was taking a nap.
- The first two judges authorities called were out of town. The 3rd pronounced him dead via phone with no more information than LE on scene telling her there were no signs of struggle and the Justice's doctor telling her that he had been in for an appointment earlier in the week and worked the rest of the week.
- No medical examination was performed other than checking for pulse and feeling his body as cold.
- No autopsy will be preformed even though most unexpected, unattended deaths trigger an autopsy. Not even a toxicology report will be preformed.
- Obummer attempt to make a recess appointment during basically a long weekend had previously been struck down by the court because recess appointment can only be made during true recess as scheduled by the Congress.
- A scheduled congressional recess started the very day he died. Opening up a relatively long period of time for BO to legally make a recess appointment without challenge.
Seriously, this is a story right out of a conspiracy novel except none of what I mentioned above is fictional or conjecture, it's all been reported as fact by mainstream media.
If we don't see a recess appointment in the next two weeks, than all of this can go down as simple coincidence. But if we do see a recess appointment, which I don't personally think BO will possibly let this tragedy go to waste, I will forever be skeptical that we didn't actually see a political conspiracy plot line acted out in reality.
The Senate is currently in Recces until the 22nd (a week from today). He has this week to do a recess appointment if he wants to. Doesn't matter what's been done in the past, his new Marxist controlled USSC would uphold his actions (plus the state of recess was in dispute last time. It is not in dispute this time around).Quote:
Originally Posted by MAP
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...ed-scalia.html
He will NEVER appoint an originalist or strict constitutionalist as his life's work (if you'd go back and re-read "Dreams From My Father") is to complete his father's work of bringing down the evil Colonialist Capitalist White West.
If he appoints someone later this week they will make Kagen and Sotomeyor look like level headed originalists. And the American people (and GOP in DC) will lay down and do nothing. We are weak and cowardly and frankly too fat and happy to make a stand now, so the likelihood is that we will never.
The Republic dies with a whimper, not a bang.
^Exactly.
I've posted my beliefs on undue influence over the Court in the past only to be told I am embarrassing the forum.
Once I accepted that Fast and Furious was designed to get innocent American and Mexican nationals murdered for the sole purpose of advancing gun control in the US, I realized there is nothing beneath this group of people. Yes, there are other examples too.
Yeah, some of these folks on this site are a bit further than a little left of center.
Sounds a lot like what we were told prior to the bamacare vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
Anyone else see any inconsistencies in the ranch owner's account as reported by the LA Times?
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...214-story.html
Hmm, let's see...
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“I had not seen him, and everyone else was up. I knocked loudly," Poindexter said in an interview with the Los Angeles Times. But Scalia was in a large room, the "El Presidente" suite, and the owner figured that perhaps the justice couldn’t hear him.
Poindexter had just met Scalia, and although he found him “congenial” and they got on well at dinner the night before, his first thought was: “He’s a Supreme Court justice, and if he doesn’t want to be bothered.”
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Most of the other guests had been to the ranch before and were friends or longtime acquaintances of Poindexter, who has a home on the ranch and has been hosting winter weekend gatherings for 20 years.
Poindexter said he had met Scalia once before, briefly in Washington, when he was there with a sports group and the justice agreed to meet them. He said he invited Scalia to the ranch on the suggestion of a mutual friend, a lawyer, who came with Scalia.
Did the ranch owner, Poindexter, just meet the Justice, or did he meet him before, in DC? Did the owner's lawyer friend initiate the invitation or did the Justice invite the lawyer friend?Quote:
Poindexter had originally invited Scalia to bring his son, and when he couldn’t come at the last minute, the justice brought the attorney friend instead, who alerted the family to his death, Van Etten said.
I wonder when we're going to hear from one of the other 35 anonymous long time friends of the democrat donor and owner or just from Poindexter himself.
Can anyone here tell me with a straight face that it's completely normal for there to be no medical examination or investigation into the death of a top political figure and national leader who died without witnesses in a remote location? With the only account coming from a single individual who was the party that initiated the deceased visit to said remote location?
This is very weird and the next couple weeks will tell all we need to know.
Sorry, but we have a two per person limit (nominations).
And it begins.....GOP showing signs of backing down from vow to block Obama SCOTUS pickQuote:
Originally Posted by GilpinGuy
http://www.amazon.com/Act-Treason-Mi...ds=vince+flynnQuote:
Originally Posted by GilpinGuy
I'm in favor of accepting Obama's nomination, delaying the hearings and then Borking him or her. Could easily stretch this out without the perception of blatant obstructionalism.
Exactly. There are many tools in the toolbox which do not have such negative PR consequences. However these require ensuring that Republicans are all on the same page and will not cross the aisle "to be nice" or something stupid like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jslo
Reality is that they are all on the same page - the Liberal page. What have the Republicans done since we gave them the House in 2012 and the Senate in 2014? Not one damn thing that the Dems would oppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumline
Who cares if we upset Obama and his supporters? Last I checked, they don't vote Republican anyway. Let them be pissed.
The problem is, the Republicans in office don't want to upset the Dems in office. They are all in it together.
While this is partially true, there's those pesky independents you're trying to swing.
When the shoe was on the other foot, the Dems didn't give a damn who got pissed and it didn't hurt their elections one bit.
Independents in name only - 95% of them consistently vote for the same side every election despite their lack of affiliation.
Reality:
The Dem politicians do the liberal dirty work while the Repub politicians fake being upset about it and make excuses as to why they can't stop it.
However, when we give the Repub politicians control, they continue to make excuses and do nothing to stop it.
It is about to happen again with this appointment.
All just a big show.
Just look at how long Hillary'sQuote:
Originally Posted by jslo
criminal trialemail hearings are taking. Hell, we're still investigating Benghazi and that was more than 2 years ago. Seems par for the course. [Dunno]
And didn't we just hijack your whole Trump thread to explain that to you? And you think Trump is going to fix that? [LOL] You think Trump would nominate someone as constitutionally conservative as Scalia? [LOL]Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
[hahhah-no]
You "hijack" a "whole Trump" thread to talk about Libertarians.
Then come here to talk about Trump?
I thought this thread was about Scalia's death.
You really should consider starting your own threads. Seems like you need to vent. [gohome]
Ah c'mon, he totally said that's exactly what he wants to do!!! What's not to believe?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
Just pointing out your hypocrisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
Go ahead and call me a liar and threaten to sue me like Trump would. [Flower]
Nah, I'll just keep pushing the buttons of those who take this circus too seriously. It amuses me.[Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
And we continue to get divided further.....and we're on the same side.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christi...ampaign=buffer
Fundraiser or golf?
You don't go to the funeral of a man you had murdered. [Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by jslo
The hypocrisy knows no bounds!
http://i.imgur.com/jLIvup5.jpg
The White House spokesdummy said that was then, this is now. Said the POTUS regrets doing that eventhough the Dem filibuster was based on "substance" unlike it would be in Repubs Filibuster.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
Unbelievable...
I'm going to go post this on FB right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
The line was double-snaked around the block to see him in repose at the supreme court this afternoon, and a capitol policeman on duty said that it was about 3hrs for the wait (which got pushed back even further due to potus signaling he was gonna swing by in between tee-times)
I had stopped by to pay my respects, but didn't have the 3+hrs to wait. Was refreshing to see so many people who were willing to wait, though.
I think in the reach of time, Reagan's nomination of Scalia will contend with the downfall of the Soviet Union for Reagan's greatest legacy. Thing is, he probably has to share credit for bringing down the Soviet Union with Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II but nominating Scalia was all Reagan ...
http://www.weaselzippers.us/258026-o...to-golf-today/
I have no words for how I feel about this man.
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I thought he was ‘so busy’ reviewing Supreme Court nominees he couldn’t even spare an hour for the funeral. See photo op:
http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-conte...6.22.26-PM.png
He got rained on playing golf. I’d like to think that that was God telling him ‘Screw you’ for being an ass.
The family was better off without that scum sucker being present as long as they kept Uncle Joe away from the wimmen folk.
You know, I try to not say things that make me sound like an a-hole, but stuff like this really tries my patience. This guy....Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
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Rumors are that Obama is considering a moderate Republican for his nomination. Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval is being name dropped. If this proves to be true I think the Senate had better take a long hard look in the mirror about their blustering as there is no guarantee that they retain the Senate or take the White House.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0VX1LL