I've seen it at a few gunshows but that's about it for local. Internet only I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh
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I've seen it at a few gunshows but that's about it for local. Internet only I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh
.22 bar none. can take game of all sizes (shot placement), low noise profile, can carry 10x more ammo, the gun is lighter, smaller, ammo is more plentiful..
One gun not the coolest gun but the one gun I'd have to say would be a .22lr. Can carry several thousand rounds easily, and with shot placement hunt almost all game. Still a capable round for defense maybe not a Rambo [AR15] style defense but still I know I wouldn't want to get shot with a .22
and no matter where you go across the country in any store or shop thousands more rounds will be available unlike the 5.56 or .223 rounds.
Not the coolest but arguably the most practical[Beer]
I am going to say my Magnum Research 10/22 with a collapsible stock. It is very light, can be short for discreet carry, easily carry enough ammo. With the different loads of ammo that are now available, there is almost something for everything. You can have 40gr bullets going around 1500 fps, or 60gr bullets going around 950fps. I like my 5.56s, but there has always been a 22lr in my safe.
I voted pistol simply because in nearly all cases, I wouldn't want anyone to know I was armed... unless this was an all out firefight all around, (in which case I'd want my AR) I'd always have my g19, 3+ mags and a couple hundred rounds of ammo.
My FN Scar 17, not on the list but it was purchased specifically to fill the one gun SHTF role.
Select-fire suppressed potato gun with modified choke and extended mags filled with some pre-ripe russet's. Worst case scenario: hash browns if the zombies fail to materialize.
If I did not have a weapon that might suffice in this category, I would consider this: http://www.excelarms.com/handguns/xseriespistol.html in .30 Carbine.
Magazines and ammo are available and plentiful to stock up on. It could be concealled on a shoulder strap, capable of taking game, fairly high capacity, fairly quick reloads and ammo is pretty compact for transport.
If Kel-Tec would ever release the RMR-30, and it works as advertised, I would probably put it in first place over the Excel.
I don't know why we bother with threads like these. All anybody owns or needs is a .22 and a .38, and maybe a 12ga.
That being said, mine would be a a 5.56 Recce AR. Far more reliable than any AK I've ever owned.
im not sure the recce would be my cup of tea here. I think I would want something a little sloppier. Who knows what kind of maintenance time I might have or what kind of ammo might be used. Might be finding/ shooting whatever you find.Quote:
Originally Posted by centrarchidae
I clean this rifle once each 2000-3000 rounds, most of which are dirty-ass Russian ammo. Other than the inherent accuracy issues of inconsistent crap import ammo, I haven't had any heartburn. I don't think I've ever actually had a stoppage, except for a feeding issue with a dented black-follower magazine that got hammer therapy.
I think most of the "ARs are finicky or unreliable" folklore comes from people who thought that their Bushmaster/DPMS/whatever was "Just as good as" a Colt/BCM/DD, When it turns out that their rifle sucks, they assume that the good rifles must also suck.
(And it's probably not a true recce, since it's got a 1:7 CL 5.56 barrel instead of a 1:8 stainless Wylde.)
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Originally Posted by birddog
Go back and read the first post. [Bang] I would rather have one thread on this instead of this question come up every 3-4 month or so. The fact that it keeps rising from the dead tells me I am right. [Flower] Just a thought.Quote:
I don't know why we bother with threads like these.
Sorry, thought it was clearer that it was a joke when I threw in the part about how everybody only needs a .22 and a .38 or some such.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrymrc
Sorry guys, but the Ar-15 has literally millions of mags, Trillions of rounds and even more accessories available in the US, when the SHTF every time you come across a group of baddies you will find ARs and you will also be able to take the mags out of their vests and use them in your gun no problem.
What he said. I'd like to pick my AK or .308 AR, but I'd pick my Glock 19 for reasons mentioned above.Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger
Firstly, and I know I'm going to get it from the AK followers, but I hate the AK-47. I repeat, hate it. It's a commie gun, the gun of our enemies and I have been shot at too many times from some dueche bag using one that I will never willingly use one unless absolutely necessary. But I digress.... I have often thought of this question and I always keep coming back to the .22. Specifically, the 10/22. Tons of options out there for mods, rounds are light so you can carry tons, 90% of the game out there you could take down, and self-defense. People talk about stopping power, but dead is dead. It don't matter if it's from a .22 or a .45ACP. Now, if you needed to crack an engine block then I agree, but in survival mode, I'm looking to keep my family safe, defend myself, and provide for my family.
However, the AR is a very close second with all the availability of rounds, replacement parts and such. But like some on this forum, I don't plan on having conact with too many people I don't know, and will avoid confrontation if possible.
It depends on the situation, but would rather ride it out at home with my AR and 870 etc than head to the hills. If bugging out is mandatory still think the AR is the best choice for me only because I am comfortable with it and I have a ton of ammo for it at all times.
I find this poll skewed. Reference the logo at the top left of the page for my complete argument.
Just one?If you are 'prepped' at all you won't be stuck with just one, you'll have asmany bases covered as possible. However, for the sake of the question, I preferthe M1A. Several reasons; the rifle is very reliable and accurate, thecartridge is one that can put food on the table and defend (applies to all .308rifles), greater range than the carbines, and I love the iron sights. But that’sme, I can hit with the M1A and that's the most important part. If you can't hitwith what you got it's just extra weight to carry. If what you can hit with isa .22 hand gun then that is what you should have. There are all kinds of goodpoints to be made for this firearm or that one, but hitting trumps them all.
Going with a 12 gauge double barrelled Remington, prefer one with a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel and a hair trigger. Shop smart, shop S mart! You got that?!? [werdo]
Can I have a moddified answer of .22 MAGNUM??
lol this thread just keeps coming back to life!
You forgot the appropriate smiley.....Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
[zombie1]
If you had any say in the matter wouldnt you want to be sniping guys from the hills rather then at point black range? you have never heared or met anyone who has ever said "thank god I was too close to gun fight/gun men gun fire"Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBear
I am unable to see anything at a range of > 50 yards from my home. And if SHTF I won;t be wandering the streets.Quote:
Originally Posted by SG1
if you had a choice in the matter....but yeah the idea of having only one gun is fun the think and play with....but not fun to really think about..one part and you are SOL AND JWF SHIT OUT OF LUCK AND JOLLY WELL FUCKED.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
If I am mobile... last resort... I (and my family members) can take care of human sized threats at 300M with no problem. Prepper code, "two is one and one is none". However if I only had the chance to take one firearm, that is a different story. This is a specific scenario.
I don't think in a true shtf That I would want to carry a lot of heavy ammo. I vote 22 because I can carry literally thousands of rounds with me and I could find ammo in most houses.
'tis why I voted how I did... 6.5" single six... Shooting supported I can take care of a 6" silhouette target at 150 yards.
Ohh wait there isn't a selection for it... sad days
"Zombie Apocalypse" SHTF situation it would be a .22, probably the MP5 clone because it holds 25 rounds.
Actual SHTF (what I voted for) if I had to run to the mountains and only take 1 gun it would be a shotgun, 870 express 12 ga. I have slugs, birdshot and buckshot on hand. I can hunt nearly any game available and protect myself.
Or for more punch and still be weight conscious 22MAG. 1 revolver, 1 rifleQuote:
Originally Posted by Jamnanc
Good point Josh. Very versatile. I say H&R pardner Pump cuz it is cheaper but pretty much the same shotgun. :-D
I'm saying any semi auto .308 it'll do just about anything you need of it in a pinch.
Isn't that the guy who shot himself on doomsday preppers?.....
It looks like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lex137
im ordering from these guys
http://www.gunadapters.com/
for my h&r break open 12ga
12ga - 20ga
20ga - 410
410 - 22lr
they should all nest up together and take up the space of one 12ga slug i figure ill leave it in my forend that way no matter what kind of shotgun ammo they got i can buy it and keep shooting :)
i voted for an ak and specifically my ak74 it will do pretty much anything 5.56 ball will do and i have crap tons of 5.45 (my ar15 is a 5.45 too that would be my second choice)
Im the oddball. If I could only grab one long gun, it would be my AW with the .308 tube screwed on. Tough, reliable, accurate and awesome barrel life!
Are those rifled?Quote:
Originally Posted by cofi
EDIT - i found some that are specifically titled "rifled" so I seem to have answered my own question. The short ones are seemingly not rifled.