Commiefornia Police Kick in Door and Taze Person Filming Them

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Originally Posted by jim

Did you see the person on the ground with multiple stab wounds? Did you see the knife inside their waist band? Did you see anything other than what you wanted to see?

I ask because everyone "sees" what they want to based on pre conceived bias. Until you see something from the LE side, you are seeing a possibly edited clip and or not getting as Paul Harvey would say. The rest of the Story

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They would have been screaming about anything they thought they saw. They would have answered his simple and legal question but they did not like somebody standing up to them. It became about ego and in your own home... you should ALWAYS win that one. The home owner was asking for a warrant and complying with orders except opening the door, hands were up showing no aggressiveness. If they really thought there was a danger to anybody but were not sure, they could have backed off, gotten a warrant (after stating their probable cause to the judge) and then entered the home (per the Constitution, that being the 4th Amendment). That was not what happened. This was what many of us fear as a police state. I am a cop and I can do anything I want. That is BS.

On this one there is no "what everyone sees".

As a kid, my Mom was with a guy that would get violent with all of us and when she went for the phone he would rip it out of the wall. Once a neighbor heard him bashing her head into the wall and called the cops and then screamed that they were on the way. This guy flipped out even worse and threatened to kill us all if my Mom didnt straighten up and make them go away. I remember the terror of that night to this very day and can only imagine that there are SERIOUS reasons why LE needs access to the house to ascertain if everything is truly copacetic or if people are being threatened into denying the violence. With the amount of women being beaten or killed every day in this country, I would think Domestic Violence isnt something Cops are going to fuck around with. I've heard they are some of the most potentially volitile calls they get. Like with most of these self taped interactions I've seen, I suspect there is more to the angle than innocently protesting a violation of constitutional rights.

Maybe Bailey Guns can answer my question, which I will elaborate further on. With most domestic violence calls (as this one is reported to be), when the cops show up, too often doesn't the beat-ee either recant or altogether pretend like nothing is wrong? I would imagine this would be a situation where exigent circumstances would suggest that the police enter to investigate further.

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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head

Maybe Bailey Guns can answer my question, which I will elaborate further on. With most domestic violence calls (as this one is reported to be), when the cops show up, too often doesn't the beat-ee either recant or altogether pretend like nothing is wrong? I would imagine this would be a situation where exigent circumstances would suggest that the police enter to investigate further.

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Sometimes, but we have to go off of evidence present, what they say, and any witnesses. Domestic violence crimes are mandatory arrests even if the victim doesn't want to charge them.

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Originally Posted by DingleBerns

Sometimes, but we have to go off of evidence present, what they say, and any witnesses. Domestic violence crimes are mandatory arrests even if the victim doesn't want to charge them.

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I thought this was if one of the two parties in the house was called? My X and I were "wrestling" in our living room when we had the same call... The cops who showed up got a door answered by a couple of half naked people......... No one got arrested then. They understood what was happening though. So, what gives? EDIT: We lived in an apartment, upstairs apartment. Neighbors heard "screaming", and thumping....

Back around 1997 I had an officer..oh shit forget it....

It worked out well.

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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head

Maybe Bailey Guns can answer my question, which I will elaborate further on. With most domestic violence calls (as this one is reported to be), when the cops show up, too often doesn't the beat-ee either recant or altogether pretend like nothing is wrong? I would imagine this would be a situation where exigent circumstances would suggest that the police enter to investigate further.

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Yep. Happens in what I'd call a high-percentage of domestic calls, especially with chronic abusers. Like DingleBerms said, sometimes the cops can help, sometimes they can't based on evidence...which oftentimes includes the victim's own statements that the abuser didn't do anything.

Threads like this really push my buttons. That video was presented here with one purpose in mind...to get an emotional response and to put the police actions in the worst light possible. It always works with this crowd. Everyone here's a damn expert in police procedure, even if they have no formal training.

Even if they had probably cause to kick in the door... Which they probably did. I don't think they had a right to taze them.

They'll get a slap on the wrist.

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Originally Posted by spyder

I thought this was if one of the two parties in the house was called? My X and I were "wrestling" in our living room when we had the same call... The cops who showed up got a door answered by a couple of half naked people......... No one got arrested then. They understood what was happening though. So, what gives? EDIT: We lived in an apartment, upstairs apartment. Neighbors heard "screaming", and thumping....

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I don't know who called as I didn't read the story, just watched the video. Wrestling isn't a crime so nothing happened to you guys, :).

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Yep. Happens in what I'd call a high-percentage of domestic calls, especially with chronic abusers. Like DingleBerms said, sometimes the cops can help, sometimes they can't based on evidence...which oftentimes includes the victim's own statements that the abuser didn't do anything.

Threads like this really push my buttons. That video was presented here with one purpose in mind...to get an emotional response and to put the police actions in the worst light possible. It always works with this crowd. Everyone here's a damn expert in police procedure, even if they have no formal training.

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The biggest complaints or criticism seems to originate from those who were never on the job. Or have no one in LE in the family, who see and hear the "other side". I had the same criticism when i wrenched on 4 & 2 wheeled vehicles, tattoos, etc.
"Well i understand you did this, BUT couldn't you have done ...........this?"