Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters

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Originally Posted by Dave

Read an article that said there's names like VanillaIsis and YallQaeda being used instead of militia, along with recommendations of Apache helicopters doing strafing runs or F-22's doing missile strikes. Bet these were the same people who cried about SWAT using tear gas on rioters and looters recently.

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

Good place for a F-22 to do a supersonic low level pass...

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Originally Posted by Ah Pook

Demonize and confiscate. Sound familiar?

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Nah. History is boring. I get everything I need to know from The Daily Show. [Sarcasm2]

What I mean't by a F-22 low level pass, was to wake them up! You will be aware of what is going on, when you hear the sonic boom! You actually thought I meant use weapons against the protesters? Want to see the enemy? Look at my avatar!

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

What I mean't by a F-22 low level pass, was to wake them up! You will be aware of what is going on, when you hear the sonic boom! You actually thought I meant use weapons against the protesters? Want to see the enemy? Look at my avatar!

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[facepalm][dig][facepalm][dig]

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

Valid points, but I'd bet there are at least 5 million people (probably closer to 20M) around the country that would take up arms to fight tyranny. I would have quickly jumped on board to such a task, but now with a family of my own, I have other considerations. The line in the sand has moved for me over the past few years, but I cannot say exactly how far. I would never hope for bloodshed, but if blood is what they want, they will certainly get it one way or another. The gov knows that there are 120 Million gun owners in the US and an outright war cannot be won, so they must be patient and continue with the "death by 1000 cuts" over several generations.

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(Sorry I keep quoting your posts, you bring up good points/thoughts)

I have always thought/felt if the cause was just it would be more of a Boolean decision; yes or no. The fight would be pervasive, everywhere all the time. Kind of like the American Revolution... If you were a colonist there really was no avoiding it. Sure, you can stay neutral but that only means the outcome is decided by others. 70% of the colonists tried to do just that only to have the other 30% make the decision for them.

If these events inspire FedGov to start a larger fight against certain people, who also happen to be the producers (most capable), then that could do it. I see this as where collectivism eventually unwinds anyway; needing to control producers on the collective's terms. It will ultimately lead to a use of force either to eliminate certain people or compel them to work when the individual incentives have been taken. (Yes, I see both BLMs being used for these ends)

But this (like Bunkerville) isn't that fight. This could be more like the Boston event that frames opinions and sets plans into motion.

Maybe there's an agenda?!?
What better way to push more gun laws against your prime target.

I stole this from Alan West's FB page, but I thought it very appropriate.

I know it's just conjecture and "what if's" right now, but I need to put out a STERN reminder that we don't allow discussions about violent revolutions against our government here. Such discussions will bring the wrong type of attention to this site and individual members that none of us want. Tread lightly.

What if I see something revolting inside the government? Who do I say something to when that happens?

I know it will be past time to rise up when a President signs an Executive Order requiring the head of each household to prominently display the official photograph of the President on a wall in the home.

My my first act of rebellion will to hang a framed copy of Putin riding a Bear.

I like the term VanillaIsis.. it made me giggle. Those liberals sure are punny..

On topic, since apparently sarcasm just gets shit censored and deleted around here..

I really hope this remains peaceful. I don't see it being so, but I can hold on to hope. Ruby Ridge, Waco.. that's what I see this turning in to. I thought for sure the ranch in Texas would have ended that way (It was texas right?). There doesn't need to be a show of any force by the government or Joe Bob is going to get a bit too jumpy with a booger picker on the trigger.

Land grabs by the fed have managed to stay out of the news since forever... well... now they're drawing attention to it. Somewhere someone is going to start digging and find the BLM selling this land at a discounted rate to the upper echelons, maybe not current land grabs.. but those in the past that have long been forgotten. Whether they claim imminent domain or whatever (which I think is complete BS), someone has an agenda and someones pockets are being lined. Maybe now people will start to look and dig..

There is NO reason for this to turn violent except for the government to turn them into criminals.

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Originally Posted by Monky

I like the term VanillaIsis.. it made me giggle. Those liberals sure are punny..

On topic, since apparently sarcasm just gets shit censored and deleted around here..

I really hope this remains peaceful. I don't see it being so, but I can hold on to hope. Ruby Ridge, Waco.. that's what I see this turning in to. I thought for sure the ranch in Texas would have ended that way (It was texas right?). There doesn't need to be a show of any force by the government or Joe Bob is going to get a bit too jumpy with a booger picker on the trigger.

Land grabs by the fed have managed to stay out of the news since forever... well... now they're drawing attention to it. Somewhere someone is going to start digging and find the BLM selling this land at a discounted rate to the upper echelons, maybe not current land grabs.. but those in the past that have long been forgotten. Whether they claim imminent domain or whatever (which I think is complete BS), someone has an agenda and someones pockets are being lined. Maybe now people will start to look and dig..

There is NO reason for this to turn violent except for the government to turn them into criminals.

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Nevada - where the BLM controls 68% of all the land in the state.