41P signed and passed

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Originally Posted by Ramsker

Of the many things I'm unclear on with regard to this . . . what is the story with the "fingerprint cards" that would be involved here? The doc refers to a "FBI Form FD-258 (fingerprint card)" along with the Form 5320.23. Is that something new that people would need to go get? We were photographed and printed as part of the process to get our CHP, so is that something that you would just need to get from the county sheriff's office to be used for the applications? If so, seems like part of the process that could be slow-walked either purposefully or just through actual volume.

Guess it will take some time to get a rundown of the key details that apply for those of us with trusts. That's a lot of text to read though.

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Originally Posted by Irving

You don't have to go through the sheriff to get finger printed on a blue card though. Many sheriff departments farm this out, so you just show up with money and they finger print you. It's the way I've been officially finger printed every time I've had to apply for a state adjusting license.

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You can probably get a blue FP card done at your local PD. I have to do this for work related BGC periodically. I think the only hurdle was Parker PD had specific hours that their FP person was available.

Here's another thought. To get an FP card completed, you have to show valid ID (DL or passport). To get a BGC you have to show valid ID. You need a valid ID for almost everything EXCEPT voting. And there folks, is the cause for all this BS.

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Originally Posted by brutal

You can probably get a blue FP card done at your local PD. I have to do this for work related BGC periodically. I think the only hurdle was Parker PD had specific hours that their FP person was available.

Here's another thought. To get an FP card completed, you have to show valid ID (DL or passport). To get a BGC you have to show valid ID. You need a valid ID for almost everything EXCEPT voting. And there folks, is the cause for all this BS.

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^^^^^^^ this! HAHAHAHAHA [LOL]

Ironically You don't need I.D to vote, a given right. But you not only need Valid I.D to buy a gun. Sometimes you have to wait for approval to take a gun home. A right granted CONSTITUTIONALLY.

IMAGINE telling Juan al Farisi sorry not only do you need Valid identification to vote.... There's a 5 day waiting period to do so. This allows us to verify you're allowed a ballot.

The derpy outrage would be worth the price of admission.

OK, another question here.

If I have my items on a trust and I don't purchase any new items or add anyone to the trust, is there anything that needs to be done or does this only impact future (180 days from now) additions?

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Ironically You don't need I.D to vote, a given right. But you not only need Valid I.D to buy a gun. Sometimes you have to wait for approval to take a gun home. A right granted CONSTITUTIONALLY.

IMAGINE telling Juan al Farisi sorry not only do you need Valid identification to vote.... There's a 5 day waiting period to do so. This allows us to verify you're allowed a ballot.

The derpy outrage would be worth the price of admission.

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or $200 and six months to get approved, and you have to tell the gov when you cross state lines...

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Originally Posted by th3w01f

OK, another question here.

If I have my items on a trust and I don't purchase any new items or add anyone to the trust, is there anything that needs to be done or does this only impact future (180 days from now) additions?

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Only new additions...or any changes to your co-trustees

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Ironically You don't need I.D to vote, a given right. But you not only need Valid I.D to buy a gun. Sometimes you have to wait for approval to take a gun home. A right granted Guaranteed CONSTITUTIONALLY.

IMAGINE telling Juan al Farisi sorry not only do you need Valid identification to vote.... There's a 5 day waiting period to do so. This allows us to verify you're allowed a ballot.

The derpy outrage would be worth the price of admission.

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Semantics matter. The government/constitution do not grant rights, they can only guarantee or protect those that are preexisting.

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Originally Posted by yankeefan98121

Only new additions...or any changes to your co-trustees

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Thanks, that's the way I read it too. Now I need to find a 7.62 Saker ASAP. :)

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Originally Posted by yankeefan98121

Only new additions...or any changes to your co-trustees

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Not sure about the reading on the bold. If you add a trustee, without adding an item, who do you report that to?
Just spit balling cause I really don't know.

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Originally Posted by muddywings

Not sure about the reading on the bold. If you add a trustee, without adding an item, who do you report that to?
Just spit balling cause I really don't know.

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I don't know either...

Going off what NFA guy as well (post #33, #3)....