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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski
The TL;DR version: Get votes or do nothing and complain - those are your only two options. To get a larger number of votes you need to relax the rhetoric on a couple of key social issues. Many many many independents only vote Dem due to all the Republican mongering 2 issues.
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Sounds like our nation has dropped the ball on the importance and benefit of religious beliefs.
Seeing as how our nation was founded on these beliefs, it is a sad commentary on what we've become.
As Lebowski stated, we can either flush our principles in order to gain more votes, or perhaps stick to our principles and educate others as to what they are, their history in our nation, and why they matter - bring them over and gain more votes.
It is obvious which way our nation will go.
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John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
I have talked with 6 of the candidates running for various offices in DoCo. I have said this to all of them when they start Bible thumping (not a pejorative, using it as a cultural reference) - as of yet, I haven't found one that actually gets it.
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Originally Posted by davsel
I wasn'tmaking a religious statement. It definitely was neither for nor against in that realm.
More so a[n apparent] failed rhetorical wondering how Machiavellian do we want to be, and this race to the bottom.
It certainly wasn't a platform on gays or abortion or pot or immigration or whatever your flavor du jour. $0.02
There's religious, and then there's this:
This is Cruz's Father Telling You All You Need To Know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNa5w9js48sQuote:
This is what you're voting for if you vote for Ted Cruz.
This is the sort of crazy you're voting to put in the White House. I will remind you that there is little -- or no -- difference between this and the Mullahs in Iran today, the historical theocracies that burned women at the stake, and, if we allow it, that very same evil will be ensconced in our government.
If you're arrogant enough to believe that you have your finger on the pulse of God, and can anoint individuals as these people do -- and I remind you that this is Cruz himself and his father, not some random kook -- you are inviting that arrogance and evil, the very work of Satan, into the highest office of our land.
Humans, standing at the pulpit and arguing that we can anoint humans to take dominion in all areas -- economics, people, politics.
The making of KINGS to take dominion, go to WAR and bring the spoils of war to the Priests.
These are not my words, they are straight out of these sermons.
Listen for yourself; this is what you're voting for if you vote for or support Cruz.
You saw this on display last night with only a bit of obfuscation when it comes to the issue of Israel and the Palestinians. While it might be necessary to literally "kill them all" both Rubio and Cruz's opening position was to do exactly that rather than first attempt, in an honest and impartial way, to prevent a war and the killing not just of fighting individuals but also women and children with the latter being true innocents who have no beef with anyone.
People who hold these views are flat-out psychotic and we must not allow them into the halls of the Executive, or we shall have in fact invited Satan into the White House.
While I'm not a big fan of the Cruz clan, you support a godless, vain heathen like Trump, while supposedly support/uphold religious vaues?Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
Get it together man. Don't overlook the foibles of your candidate while you actively disparage another.
Flame away. I know you're going to, but the more you rant, the more transparent the thin veil of your professed Christian belief crumbles.
Judge not, lest ye be judged?
I seem to remember some important points concerning compassion and forgiveness as well. Carry on.
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I re-post someone else's commentary, and you choose to attack me and my faith?
Take a breath.
My breath is fine.
Nice deflection, though.
I have no doubt in your faith. You have been adamant in professing that for a long time.
You come across as a bit closed-minded, and extremely critical. You also don't respond well to criticism, constructive or otherwise. You also don't come across as very open to debate and discussion.
You say what you think, yet demand citation and verification from any that dare to oppose you.
The fact that you took such offense to my post says a lot.
What it says is up to individual interpretation.
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Still attempting to attack the messenger while ignoring the message.
Carry on.