A shitty round. My CCW round is either 45ACP or 40S&W.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackmode9316
When I was in the Persian Gulf, I saw the efffects of the 9mm on others, took many shots to subdue the situation.
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A shitty round. My CCW round is either 45ACP or 40S&W.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackmode9316
When I was in the Persian Gulf, I saw the efffects of the 9mm on others, took many shots to subdue the situation.
Im assuming people were using .40 or .45's in that same scenario to help you make that conclusion?Quote:
Originally Posted by DD977GM2
No, of course not. Reg military doesnt get that kind of variaty in ammo. A good friend at the time, was or is still a SEAL and we talked about things......he is the one who gave me the go bigger and shoot less idea. Coming from him.... I will carry anything bigger then 9mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackmode9316
I think that anything over 3 rounds to centermass , which we used more on a few occasions, still didnt stop the thrteat all the way, they had movement and desire to use their weapon still, I will not put my life on the line with 9mm ever again.
You keep carrying your 9mm and all and you feel as safe as you want to. I personally dont care if you agree with me etc. I know I will put the round on target and be done with the situation. Notice I said ROUND. All the bullshit you will attempt to say will not change my mind what so ever. My neighbor, local Deputy with the Sheriffs office.....we have had the same conversation. He carries a 45 again for the same reasons I have already chosen for myself. My dad, USMC 66-72 would never use a 9mm for anything but target practice, I am sure he has the credentials to say that 9mm sucks ass. Guys in the oilfield when I was there, we had the opportunity to shoot up a car on the Western Slope. Guess which round wouldnt go through the door all the way and which one went through? You guessed it 45 and 40 went through and the 9mm didnt. Again you carry what your able to fire accuratly and I will carry a full siz 1911 or XD45 Service for my CCW rig.
I heart the 1911 crowd. Helps keep life entertaining.
9mm not completely stopping a threat means nothing unless you have had first hand experience shooting people with the larger rounds that you are hoping will take care of all situations with one round.
If they made a semi auto in 44 mag that wasnt the size of a cannon, Id carry that instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
Yes! Thats the answer! I'm thinking like the size of a Ruger LCP. J/K that would hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by DD977GM2
If you look at coroner's reports you will find that the people the autopsy with a single round as a cause of death the highest number is that of the .45 followed by the .40
Most reports show that autopsy's with multiple gun shots as the cause of death are the 9mm followed by the .32
The reports also show that the heavier slower moving .40 and .45 smash through bones to get to the protected vitals. The 9mm and .32 have show that there is a high potential for ricochet off of the bones and away from vitals.
44 mag in a semi-auto hand gun would be awesome. The first few times. lol
We don't really need to hash out the whole caliber vs other caliber thing though do we?
Bigger is better, yes. But that doesn't mean that not bigger is worthless.
I'm having the same conversation with someone on another board about motorcycles. Apparently, if your bike gets beat by another bike, your bike is worthless and you should sell it. I never knew that.