Snowden Is anybody going to watch?

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Originally Posted by spqrzilla

Yes, for a multitude of possible reasons. He may have been believed to be blown already. Exposing him may protect the identity of a more important mole (a tactic that Soviet/Russian intelligence has used on multiple occasions in the past). And it may be believed that the damage he did to the Obama administration / US intelligence reputation was worth blowing him at the time.

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Especially when people will go on defending him and causing further damage to one of the institutions that was keeping Russian and Chinese espionage in check. What doesn't make sense is why so much of what he revealed damaged our intelligence collection on terrorists and foreign agents rather than on the putative target of American citizens. What doesn't make sense is the timeline behind his claim of being a disillusioned whistleblower. What doesn't make sense is any part of his story. He collaborated with an openly anti-capitalist somewhat anti-Western "journalist" in the UK and had a foreign girlfriend ... that's a pretty familiar pattern.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

Damaged our intelligence collection on terrorists and foreign agents? You mean a mass drag net intereception of virtually all U.S. communications. Again, already known prior to Snowden. Still,

I'd rather be a constitutional republic.

I find it ironic that people here act like those programs are desirable. You're a tit hair away from being labeled by the government for intelligence collection in the future.

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https://lawfareblog.com/snowden-revelations

Very little of this had anythign to do with US citizens. The line of defense being drawn for Snowden is absolute bovine fecal matter.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

Damaged our intelligence collection on terrorists and foreign agents? You mean a mass drag net intereception of virtually all U.S. communications. Again, already known prior to Snowden.

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It may have been known by some people, but many still regarded it as tin-foil-hattery until Snowden's leaks.

IMO Snowden blew it by releasing much more than just "whistleblower" material. Some of what he revealed was good, but a lot of it was damaging to US security interests with no benefit to the American people.

CIA world fact book calls the United States a "federal presidential republic". They wouldn't mislead us would they?

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/us.html

foxtrot - that the NSA is actually conducting surveillance on US citizens does not mean that Snowden was not a Russian agent.

I've linked to John Schindler's articles. He makes detailed arguments based published facts. I've not seen anyone actually refute his points.