Tom Tancredo

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And while you may think Hick is anti gun (something everyone seems to say about every opposing candidate), he has not - to my knowledge - done anything to support that belief as CCW licenses have gotten easier to get in Denver and he's not passed any crazy anti-gun law in Denver.

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For the simple fact this is an election cycle. Dickenpooper is not an idiot. He knows the Dems are slipping and knew way back he wanted the Governors slot when the chance came up. You can be assured this was because of the DNC & the good ole boy system is alive and well. He wouldnt dare go after a 2A issue in an election cycle.

Dickenpooper is very clearly anti 2A. He is a member of Bloombergs "Mayors Against Illegal Guns" coalition plus a few years ago he signed a letter to the NRA "dis-inviting" them from Denver for their convention. He has stated in the past he did not agree with "Shall Issue" but would not fight it at the city level.
The reason that CCW's seem easier to get is sheer numbers. Since Oboingo was elected all firearm ownership has skyrocketed and more people want to carry.
Make no mistake he is anti 2A.
He is a far left liberal and they are pretty much universial when it comes to 2A issues.

Lets not forget the fact that he has condoned a "Sanctuary City" policy as well.
Racially motivated attacks downtown last summer and you cant tell me he knew nothing of them. If he did know and did nothing he failed the citizens of Denver. If he didnt know it just proves how disconnected he is from his city.
Either way-Fail.
Besides- he cant manage the cities budget let alone the states.

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Originally Posted by Ranger

I think Tom will grab 3-5% of the TOTAL vote, and I think many of them will be swing voters - not stealing from the republican ticket, but stealing from both.

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My "research" contradicts that hypothesizes. [Tooth]

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26461

IMO I believe that Tom has brought the depressing condition of the GOP to a head but ultimately the actions of Dick Wadhams is what is destroying it. Tom will bring more republican voters then will hickenlooper but mcinnis and maes have no chance to win either. its a messed up situation but I cannot fault Tancredo, the other two GOP nominations self destructed long before Tancredo decided to run. rest assured we will be under a democratic governor for the next four years fellas but blaming Tancredo is absurd this falls squarely on Wadham and hopefully he will step down so that the GOP can get new leadership and we can make a run at the next election and hopefully it will be Tancredo then as well back home with an R behind his name.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

My "research" contradicts that hypothesizes. [Tooth]

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26461

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Given some time to research this myself, I think you are correct and my initial assessment was off. I think he will get 15-20% - which is still not enough to win. Unless Maes/McGinnis really blows it, they will get the other 25-30% and WHOOP, we have Hick.

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Originally Posted by OgenRwot

That's what I was implying. A lot of folks talking about the issue are not looking long term. We need a Republican in office even if he's not your favorite. Do you want Hickenlooper or a guy you only agree with 75% of the time? We have the census this year, that means redistricting next year. If we have a liberal gov, senate and possibly house off Colfax we're going to have even more liberal control in the state house and from our Congressional delegation. We can't have them gerrymander the district lines.

Yeah, I know you have principals and so do I, but at the same time we have to be practical. You will never find a candidate that you agree with 100% of the time unless you're that candidate. Sometimes you have to take what you can get.

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I still contend that if Democrats are in control of Denver after this election that Colorado is done. Over. Doomed. Nuevo-California. Period.

So I agree that we need to put ANY Republican in the gov's office even if he doesn't meet my own ideological purity standards.

While I consider myself a tea-party supporter, I am concerned that the tea-partiers are suffering from the same myopia that the Libertarian Party has always suffered from. Certainly there are limits and you don't want an outright liberal Republican in office (frankly I think the country is better off with Obama over McCain since McCain would have done 90% of what Obama has done but without the hue and cry from the right) but if you don't win elections you don't get a say in how things are run.

Neither Maes nor McInnis are ideal Republicans as far as I'm concerned, but either would be better than Hickenlooper. I also don't buy this notion that Hickenlooper is unbeatable by either of them (people over state his popularity) But when Tommy comes along and has his little ego fit he is going to screw ALL conservatives over and ruin this state.

The republican party, in Colorado, has had their head up their butt for several years. They lost because of stupid mistakes. Yea', the liberals manipulated the 527 organizations much more effectively than the repupublicans. This enabled them to funnel huge amounts of money into the campaigns. Mostly supplied by Tim Gill, Pat Stryker, Jared Polis and Rutt Bridges. However, the republicans (under Dick Wadhams) still cut their own throat by making stupid decisions. There is no one to blame but themselves. Just look at what happend with McInnis and Maes, talk about micalculation. It really is just incompetence. Tom Tancredo understands this and is making a stand. He is exactly the kind of person we want in the Governor's office. If you don't vote for Tancredo you are just handing it to Frickin' Stupor and the liberals.

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Originally Posted by runoma

The republican party, in Colorado, has had their head up their butt for several years. They lost because of stupid mistakes. Yea', the liberals manipulated the 527 organizations much more effectively than the repupublicans. This enabled them to funnel huge amounts of money into the campaigns. Mostly supplied by Tim Gill, Pat Stryker, Jared Polis and Rutt Bridges. However, the republicans (under Dick Wadhams) still cut their own throat by making stupid decisions. There is no one to blame but themselves. Just look at what happend with McInnis and Maes, talk about micalculation. It really is just incompetence. Tom Tancredo understands this and is making a stand. He is exactly the kind of person we want in the Governor's office. If you don't vote for Tancredo you are just handing it to Frickin' Stupor and the liberals.

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Day late Dollar short, a lot has happened since most of these threads you are responding to were posted.

Tom has gained alot of points in the poll over the last week, if Maes will just bow out then we may have a chance at a gov. that wants to enforce immigration laws and cut state taxes.

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Originally Posted by Mtn.man

Tom has gained alot of points in the poll over the last week, if Maes will just bow out then we may have a chance at a gov. that wants to enforce immigration laws and cut state taxes.

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^^^^ this[Beer]

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Originally Posted by hurley842002

Day late Dollar short, a lot has happened since most of these threads you are responding to were posted.

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There is a purpose to replying to these old threads. The purpose is to point out the error in some peoples thinking. These errors in logic are what get people llike Barak Hussein Obama or John Hickenlooper elected. Also, if you shoot off your mouth and you're wrong, you need to eat a little crow. Vote Tancredo.