So, if this thread is a macro view of the overall race I can already see Hick winning - enough people "switched" their votes to Tancredo that neither Tancredo nor McGinnis / Maes will win. Let's hope this is not echoed at the poll.
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So, if this thread is a macro view of the overall race I can already see Hick winning - enough people "switched" their votes to Tancredo that neither Tancredo nor McGinnis / Maes will win. Let's hope this is not echoed at the poll.
I would like to see people use their vote to vote for the best man for the job. Period. I hate people who just vote for a party or try to sabotage another party to put a goon into office. A few decades of this and you have the sad state our great nation is in. For once I wish people would bag all that partisan bullshit and just vote for the best guy. Not knowing/caring and voting party line is probably worse than not voting at all. It serves only to create more votes for the two parties that are doing the damage. This country needs a radical change and if the last few years haven't been enough of a wake-up call then I'm fearful of what it's going to take for voters to stop playing games and start selecting candidate who is going to do his part to make the country a better place... not just force his/her ideals on the populace with laws taking away freedoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger
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Glad to know I'm hated. Sounds like an argument to vote Tancredo to me. Yes, in your Utopian world we would vote who we thought was the best candidate - but this isn't going to change, so until it does I'll vote party lines for those who at least resemble my own values. You see this as "stupid people who vote party lines" and my vote in THIS election isn't so much about hoping a republican get's in office but trying my best to keep the WORST man OUT of office, Hickenlooper. It's your vote, and I'm glad you exercise it, and if you choose to vote in a way that gets a man elected that may take away your gun rights or raise your taxes or decreases your freedoms then go for it. Me, I'll stick with party lines, no matter how many people may "hate me" for it.Quote:
I hate people who just vote for a party
So if more people threw away this idiotic way of thinking and voted for the RIGHT candidate this wouldn't be an issue, would it? See where this way of thinking has got this country into such trouble? I refuse to vote for a douche just because he has an (R) next to his name. A douche is a douche. I will vote for the candidate who best fits my views of what this country used to be and if others who think the same as me think that NOT voting for him will somehow be better then I guess we will cross the gun rights/taxes/freedoms bridge when we come to it. I would hope that people were smart enough to vote for the RIGHT candidate but I guess that's asking too much in today's United States. If Hick makes it back then the voters will only have themselves to blame because they have the right to choose every time they vote. I can sleep at night knowing I voted for the right man for the job even if he doesn't win. It's stupid games that keep insuring the right man for the job never gets the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger
I think Ranger is trying to say that he'll vote for the LEAST douche-y (or corrupt) candidate that has an (R) next to his name.. I won't use the word "hate", but I disagree with the position of voting for "the evil of 2 lessers".
my tolerance for douche-ness is now approaching zero, and I will now continue to flush-vote until those that are party loyal see that it's a losing proposition..
continuing to back douches or corrupt individuals hurts the party in the long run- so I'm done with that game, I refuse to support it. This is Tancredo's stance- I think he was hoping the GOP would pull a candidate & substitute him (or at least someone that isn't under some investigation or reconciliation for crimes)
Perhaps someone should put forth an independent candidate that is more appealing to liberals than Hickenlooper, to level the playing field once again.
or are the liberals more capable of unity than conservatives?
Voting party lines is the same as refusing to buy anything but an American car when all the American car companies offer is shit. It is just reinforcing mediocrity.
Note: I don't necessarily that is the case with American cars at this point in time. Keep the thread on the topic of politics.
Here's a study I would like to see:
Take a group of voters, a few from each side plus some independents and give them a few candidates to choose from. However, you take the labels R, D, and I away from the names and just let them choose based on policy.
I'd be willing to bet a few would choose candidates that they never would've voted for if they were labeled neatly for them
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Originally Posted by TS12000
Been done already and you are correct on the outcome.
Never seen it, got an idea who did it/where I can take a look?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBear
Whenever anyone here has posted a link to a conservative candidate's website I've clicked it and looked at their positions and they all seem pretty boilerplate to me.