MMJ in Colorado

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Originally Posted by opie011

Same here, she's no dope head. Medical purposes only. She really didn't want to go this route but, after years of different meds and specialists, it seemed to be the best move!

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See? That's what's messed up, most of the drugs out there now-a-days have such horrible side effects it's not even worth it. The pharma companies and FDA do all this testing and weigh out if the side effects and frequency of the side effects are worse than the condition. If the answer is no, they push the drug out to the consumer. One of the worst side effects, and I'm not kidding on this, is some drugs that say side effects include: anal leakage. I have a friend who takes meds for various conditions and he experiences that side effect from time to time and let's just say he's not happy. If enough docs pull their head out of their 4th point of contact and actually petition, they could blanket legalize cannabis for medical purposes on a federal level, but congress won't do anything unless they get near unanimous support from the medical community.

Good stuff Ronin. MMJ helps a lot of people for sure. And yes, they make everything from hard candies to baklava, cake, sodas, olive oil, ice cream, cookies etc. Anything you can think of. And a lot of people that are concerned about being judged for smoking it prefer to eat it. Or some just dont like the act of smoking. And as far as the Sativa vs. Indica your totally right, there is stuff out there that you can do chores all morning, and there is the couch glue. I see no harm in MMJ personally, when is the last time you heard:

"well this guy was all hopped up on weed and started a fight....or domestic disturbance"

How often do you hear that on alcohol? How many deaths from alcohol v weed? It doesn't even come close.

I love this country, bleed red, white and blue. I guess some of the older guys would look differently on this because I play video games and smoke a doobie on occassion.

Ronin, just purchase from the black market and make an effort to find a dealer that knows what strains they are dealing with. There are people who have spent their whole lives becoming experts in marijuana husbandry. Go into a pot shop and look at some of the books they have on the table. The science behind all of this stuff is just as good as anything else. The same guys that sell to dispensaries, also sell to the black market, so that stuff is out there. Also, for you can legally get with a card, someone using it for medical uses will likely have access to WAY more than they are allotted, so it'd be easy enough to buy from them as well.

The MAIN problem with this bullshit, half assed method of making weed legal, but only for medical use, is that now it becomes a controlled substance, and can have higher penalties than when it was just good ole black market pot.

As far turning pot into edibles, the basic idea is that you boil the pot with something like butter. All the crap leaves via boiling, and the THC (the part that gets you high) stays with the butter. Then you just make cookies, or brownies, or whatever with the butter.

Finally, I'm not pot expert, but I know a decent amount about it, and it probably makes me seem like a pot head. Like others who have chimed in, I also don't use.

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Originally Posted by UberTong

I see no harm in MMJ personally, when is the last time you heard:

"well this guy was all hopped up on weed and started a fight....or domestic disturbance"

How often do you hear that on alcohol? How many deaths from alcohol v weed? It doesn't even come close.

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Tho your statement is generally correct......... It's not always true...

My birth mother ( I don't consider her my mom) used to get high and beat me as a small child. for years just the smell of MJ would make me instantly sick... it was kinda crazy ...
Part of the reason you don't hear of "the bad things" is since it is illegal even as prevalent as MJ is nowadays it's still not easy access like alcohol. If ( or should I say when?) it goes the full legal route, more stories like mine WILL come out .. Stories like the "parents" that duct taped their toddler to the wall .. yeah that happened while they were high. look it up.

NOW with all that said ...
I Think Medical MJ is not a bad thing in and of it self, I'm sure many people are helped by it everyday .. the problem is that MMJ in colorado, and anywhere else I've seen it is a fucking joke. people with NO real problems get cards. The whole deal can't be taken seriously. I've been told by many people .. they went to a "Doctor" handed over the cash and got the card... no reason no exam .. just here ya go.

Just because someone did something bad while high, doesn't mean that they did it because they were high. I feel kind of dumb saying that to a person who experienced first hand abuse from a person who was high though.

As a Libertarian I think it outta be legal. The stoners in college were a lot more mellow than the frat boys with the keg parties. Sure, people will do stupid shit on it, but people do stupid shit with guns and that's not a reason to take them away either.

I wish my g/f could have gotten some when she messed up her knee, she got some Hydrocodone pills that totally knocked her off her ass for hours. Don't they have MMJ in pill form?

The numbers bear out the facts, look at what happened to Portugal. The Netherlands has a lower % of teen users -- because it's legal, it's not nearly as alluring.

I'm also for taxing it like the other vices: alchohol, tobacco etc.

H.

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

. . .i need more pink, i guess.

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Don't we all?

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Originally Posted by Irving

Just because someone did something bad while high, doesn't mean that they did it because they were high. I feel kind of dumb saying that to a person who experienced first hand abuse from a person who was high though.

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True....

And It could have been alcohol or any other intoxicating substance for that matter.

The real point that I guess I didn't express very well ( hey it's an emotional subject for me... and not one I like to talk about very much.)

MJ is Not "better" then alcohol, in the context of recreational use. intoxicants are just that, intoxicating. Not everyone is a violent drunk but some are. you could even say most are, and I might agree. Personally I'm a goofy drunk. I get silly and have fun. hell I have friends that try to get me drunk just so they can hear the wisecracks I tend to spit out while drunk.

In it's favor at least MJ has medical uses ( other then pure alcohol used as a disinfectant ) I can't think of one medical use of alcohol. Just as I said before the current state of the MMJ Card issues, makes a joke out of the good uses of it and I fear will hurt the "movement" in the long run.

As for the legal issues..

I don't really care. I'm ok with it being illegal, I'm ok with it being used legitimately for real medical reasons. I'd even be ok with it being made fully legal for adults to use as long as people realize it's not ok to over use, ignore/abuse their kids, not ok to smoke and drive , so on and so on.

And yes I have smoked weed, not really my thing... I don't find it very much fun. I've also done quite a few other things that I did find a lot more fun .. but that was all some time ago.

I think anyone who voluntarily puts themselves in a computerized government database of known drug users is too stupid to own firearms.

I know that MMJ is better for some people than weird pills, and the government knows that too, yet it remains illegal and they want to be able to throw sick people in jail who use it. That ain't right. The founding fathers smoked it and the Constitution was written on hemp. I am certain they would not have approved of placing MMJ users in a "prohibited person" category.

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Oh, from what I've read, one of the biggest obstacles to legalizing MJ for medical use is the fact that it's a naturally occuring substance in nature, so therefore none of the pharmaceutical companies can patent any MJ products and make killer profits. Do some research about colloidal silver, it has great health benefits too but it's a natural substance that nobody can patent so the drug cos. won't touch it. Silver is one of the best and safest germ killers known to mankind.