Now arrest them!

Ok well you go on believing what you will Pancho. Your sociology is as bunked as your economics.

In regards to illegals from other countries, I haven't seen any chinese, russian, canadian, italian, german etc etc etc flags being flown. I don't see them being raised about the American flag and reported multiple times per year, including at public schools.

Why does everyone still argue with Pancho in threads like these? You all know he isn't ever gona get it, he's as left with this subject as others are against guns. No matter what the truth is, he will never see it, or try. He'll just keep blabbing away with a bunch of crap and weird "facts" that he can't prove anywhere. DON'T FEED THE TROLL. [Beer]

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Send them all back to their native countries and lock the border down.

As we need people to apply for jobs, start businesses, etc, they can apply for citizenship, learn english, prove they carry insurance if they own a vehicle, register that vehicle with the state they intend to live and work in, get set up to pay taxes and be put on a 5 year temporary green card. Any felonies and they are gone without a chance to come back.

Any of them have current arrest records...they are gone with no chance to apply. We don't need more worthless trash in our country...we already have enough.

And I come from a background that is both legal immigrants from England and Germany on my moms side and Irish and Native American on my Dads side. 1/8 Cherokee Indian so anyone that doesn't like my comments are more than welcome to F off and leave since my ancestors were here in this land LONG LONG LONG before any of you were.

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I too am only the 3-4 generation after immigration, no more than mid 1800s. However, my relatives immigrated legally including from Spain via Mexico. It is offensive that we have to let everyone stay because there are too many of them.

It is a road to anarchy: why not repeal laws against speeding, prostitution, murder, rape and mayhem, because after thousands of years of civilization we still have these problems despite laws prohibiting such conduct.

The modern wave of Latino immigrants generally will not assimilate and increase the greatness of the USA.

We should be more nationalistic, not by race, by Citizenship and Identity. No more half Americans or dual citizenship. Anyone wanting to be a citizen of another country can go there and stay.

Our boarder should be secured and militarized like any other free nation.

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I too am only the 3-4 generation after immigration, no more than mid 1800s. However, my relatives immigrated legally including from Spain via Mexico. It is offensive that we have to let everyone stay because there are too many of them.

It is a road to anarchy: why not repeal laws against speeding, prostitution, murder, rape and mayhem, because after thousands of years of civilization we still have these problems despite laws prohibiting such conduct.

The modern wave of Latino immigrants generally will not assimilate and increase the greatness of the USA.

We should be more nationalistic, not by race, by Citizenship and Identity. No more half Americans or dual citizenship. Anyone wanting to be a citizen of another country can go there and stay.

Our boarder should be secured and militarized like any other free nation.

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I agree! I'm a 4th Gen American... my great grandparents immigrated in the late 1800's/early 1900's from Ireland. They did it right, legally, and their son (my granddad) was very successful with his hard work with the Boeing Company on several planes still in use today! I think we should deploy to the border to secure it. In Afghanistan we were briefed by a State Dept official to "never cross into Pakistan or Iran, their government will either kill you or arrest you and you will never see your family again... ever." Pretty much should be the same here. [AR15]

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Why does everyone still argue with Pancho in threads like these? You all know he isn't ever gona get it, he's as left with this subject as others are against guns. No matter what the truth is, he will never see it, or try. He'll just keep blabbing away with a bunch of crap and weird "facts" that he can't prove anywhere. DON'T FEED THE TROLL. [Beer]

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Good point. It seems like we can't get through to him, and that's kinda sad... reminds me so much of a leftist, in fact, if it wasn't for his gun ownership, I'd swear he was a liberal. [Tooth]

Set aside the 2nd gen 3rd gen assimilation BS, as a legal 1st generation immigrant, I am extremely offended that my thousands of Dollars in legal fees, countless hours in courts and interviews, and my field experience and degrees that were required to be exceptional enough to get my initial legal residence means NOTHING to Obama.

It used to be you have to prove yourself to be worthy of this nation's citizenship, now a days, in the name of equality, all parasites are welcomed here. And who give a flying f*ck whether 2nd or 3rd gen speaks spanish or english better.. the point is..the legal immigrant can speak spanish all they want legally. While the illegal immigrant is still illegal.

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Set aside the 2nd gen 3rd gen assimilation BS, as a legal 1st generation immigrant, I am extremely offended that my thousands of Dollars in legal fees, countless hours in courts and interviews, and my field experience and degrees that were required to be exceptional enough to get my initial legal residence means NOTHING to Obama.

It used to be you have to prove yourself to be worthy of this nation's citizenship, now a days, in the name of equality, all parasites are welcomed here. And who give a flying f*ck whether 2nd or 3rd gen speaks spanish or english better.. the point is..the legal immigrant can speak spanish all they want legally. While the illegal immigrant is still illegal.

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Since were throwing Generations around to quantify our stance, I am 5th Generation and you know what; I don't give a flying fuck what you speak( I would prefer English since it is our Countries language, but you get were I am coming from)- If you are legal!! "Legal" being the key word!! Being illegal undermines the process and is like spitting on those that do it right!

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Set aside the 2nd gen 3rd gen assimilation BS, as a legal 1st generation immigrant, I am extremely offended that my thousands of Dollars in legal fees, countless hours in courts and interviews, and my field experience and degrees that were required to be exceptional enough to get my initial legal residence means NOTHING to Obama.

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This pretty much sums it up for me.

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Set aside the 2nd gen 3rd gen assimilation BS, as a legal 1st generation immigrant, I am extremely offended that my thousands of Dollars in legal fees, countless hours in courts and interviews, and my field experience and degrees that were required to be exceptional enough to get my initial legal residence means NOTHING to Obama.

It used to be you have to prove yourself to be worthy of this nation's citizenship, now a days, in the name of equality, all parasites are welcomed here. And who give a flying f*ck whether 2nd or 3rd gen speaks spanish or english better.. the point is..the legal immigrant can speak spanish all they want legally. While the illegal immigrant is still illegal.

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I'm on your side. Like I said earlier, my friend's wife had to go through that same thing to be legal here. I think it's a total spit in the face for everyone who went through that process to just give illegals amnesty. Sorry to all of you, but our administration only enforces the laws we agree with. [Rant1]