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Not so much burying their heads, perhaps to young or not born yet, to realize Gun Control no matter how small it appears on the surface, is a festering wound about to spread.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevelkinevil
Today be it state of CO, or federal, the dems hold the cards.
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Originally Posted by jim
And shall we ask; when they held those cards what was the end result? We all know!
http://nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=80Quote:
Originally Posted by 10mm-man
http://www.historycommons.org/entity...orcement_act_1
How many seats will the dems hold in the senate come 2013?
On August 25, the Senate thwarted efforts by Republicans to reopen debate on the bill, and the bill passed on a final vote of 61-38
How many seats in the House come 2013?
A separate House vote in May approved the ban on the sale of assault weapons by a narrow 216-214 vote,
Tin Foil highly doubt it.
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This simultaneously scares the hell out of me and p**ses me the hell off! I never thought I'd see this occur in My State. This is serious.
In reference to the little tiff we had going on here. Both nynco and Bailey are right. We do need to get more libs into shooting and into believing in the 2A, fully. But Bailey is also right in that Dems are anti-gun as a group and even if you vote for a pro-2A Dem, when push comes to shove, they will get steamrolled by their party. Look what happened with Obamacare, the blue-dog Dems were supposed to hold the line, but they were bribed or coerced into voting for it. Voting for any Dem empowers Feinstein, Pelosi, Schumer, McCarthy et al. Which is why I will NEVER vote for a Dem again. They are anti-liberty authoritarian statists.
I'm sure this will stir up another shit storm but fuck it.....
What is this really going to change, are you people actually going to turn your firearms in? Unfortunately I went boating last weekend and all of mine fell into the lake.
I like this picture:
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Our Country has been taken over by Libitards, Career politicians of all parties, Takers, Welfare babies, Gun grabbers, Illegals...... they are the majority.
All of this is going to pass, and there is nothing we can do to stop it, this is what the majority wants. It is not the American way, we have been infiltrated from the inside and we are well on our way to Communism.
Them making it "illegal" has no effect on me. The Constitution and my Bill of Rights is the law of the land. I took an oath to uphold the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, I take this very seriously. The sooner we understand this plane is going down and stop trying to fight it.... and rather embrace it, and plan... the better off you will be.
We have a deadline for preparedness.... and that is 2014. There is no excuse to not be ready for what is to come.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am, and I won't be caught with my pants down.
If a few of you in this thread, not naming names, can not maintain a civil discussion,(anywhere on the board I may add.) I shall be polishing up the ban hammer. Right now, it's good for two weeks.
All of this bickering and vitriol gets us nowhere. Introducing people to shooting in a welcoming and positive way is the best way we have to keep guns in a good light. It should be reasonable, safe and positive, something like "Oh, you've never shot a gun before? Would you like to try sometime? Okay, cool, let's see what day works best for the range. By the way, let's go over the rules of firearm safety real quick. . ." rather than "Oh, you voted for X? GIT OUTTA MY FACE/SHOP/OUTHOUSE/BED!" I am not suggesting any kind of compromise regarding gun laws, but rather to show them in a better light than gory news headlines and Hollywood movies portray them as.
Arguing on the internet won't have any impact on the workings of the state legislature, since I doubt any of them are on this site. I went ahead and emailed the following to my state senators and representatives. I suggest you all do the same and write them.
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I am one of your constituents, and am writing in response to this article, regarding potential gun control legislation in Colorado: http://www.coloradostatesman.com/con...ol-legislation
I would like to make absolutely clear that I strongly oppose any gun control legislation. It not only imposes upon my Second Amendment right, but also on my ability to protect myself and my loved ones.
A ban on so-called 'assault weapons' is nothing more than feel-good, knee-jerk legislation. These weapons are one of the least-used weapons in crime. Your average citizen stands a higher chance of being struck by lightning than being in a violent encounter with someone with an 'assault weapon.' There are many people who own these sorts of weapons for hunting, target shooting, competition, and self-defense. It does not stand to curtail the rights and freedoms of everyone just because of this.
The same applies to a ban on so-called 'high capacity' magazines. They are very seldom used in crime. That a handful of tragic incidents make national headline news is not an indicator that they are at all a threat to the American way of life. They have many applications, the most prominent of which for me is self defense. I do not want to be forced to have a weapon with a limited-capacity magazine if the lives of my loved ones are at stake. Those extra rounds could very easily mean the difference between life and death.
Regarding the application of mental health to gun laws, this is a very sticky issue. Mental illnesses exist on a very broad spectrum, ranging from basic depression all the way up to more severe conditions like sociopathy. Furthermore, mental illness can be treated, and is on a daily basis. Making laws to restrict those with mental health issues from firearm ownership would have severe drawbacks. First, it would put pressure on mental health professionals to place patients on a 'do not arm' list, just to cover themselves and avoid potential liability later. The vast, overwhelming majority of people with diagnosed mental illnesses never go on to shoot anyone, but some mental health professionals (especially those who are opposed to guns anyway) would be inclined to put most patients onto such a list. Second, it would further stigmatize mental health issues. It would put more pressure on the mentally ill to avoid treatment, for fear of being put on a 'do not arm' list.
There are already laws in place, such as the Lautenberg amendment, that keep guns out of the hands of those with known domestic violence issues. Criminal background checks are already required for firearm purchases. Current laws work, they just need to be enforced.
In closing, I urge you to oppose any new legislation on gun control in Colorado. It will do nothing good for our great state.
Respectfully,
[The Rat]
Good write Rat.
Or is that a writ from a Rat?
Mind if I copy and cut & paste?
As far as the mudslinging-even though we may have opposing views on something we all need to be cohesive on this subject.
A house divided, a house falls.