Reflection of America's Mentality

Don't forget that JFK also reduced taxes which in turn stimulated growth.

Question for nynco: Why is it fair for me to pay substantially more for the same services than you or HoneyBadger or ChunkyMonkey or ...?

I don't mind paying for a public school system I don't use or police and firefighting that I thankfully haven't personally needed. Making sure kids know the basics of functioning as a productive citizen, that our collective homes and neighborhoods are safe are great. Your philosophy however means I should pay more for driving on the same roads, taking the same buses, etc. just because I make more. Let's leave aside how hard I worked to get where I'm at, how many opportunities for "fun" I gave up, etc. because some people are just born into it.

So what? What exactly is fair in your opinion about them paying more for the same services? What is fair about making them subsidize others regardless of how they got where they are? Christian, humanitarian, public-minded ... sure ... how is it FAIR?

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Originally Posted by nynco

Don't be an jerk. My parents are great people who are nothing like what you claim. My father still works to this day to pay for his cancer treatments. My mother the same. He is an engineer and she is a teacher. So please kindly Go F yourself and leave my parents out of your hate.

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I don't have any hate and I didn't ever mention your parents.... You did. You want fairness and I called you out on it.

I think the last few events along with dumbasses like Nynco has pushed me further to the right. My long time agent has called me back after I complained last week that my umbrella, home and car insurance will be going up to $4500 something. She proposed that I switch to progressive for $700 saving. Fuck that. I refuse to do business with the left. I ll stick with my current insurance rather than giving money to the fucking democrat fund machine.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I don't have any hate and I didn't ever mention your parents.... You did. You want fairness and I called you out on it.

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You are right Honey Badger, I went over the line and I PERSONALLY made a mistake reading what you wrote. I read it as YOUR mother and not THAT mother. I apologize for being out of line and a jerk myself.

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Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter

Question for nynco: Why is it fair for me to pay substantially more for the same services than you or HoneyBadger or ChunkyMonkey or ...?

I don't mind paying for a public school system I don't use or police and firefighting that I thankfully haven't personally needed. Making sure kids know the basics of functioning as a productive citizen, that our collective homes and neighborhoods are safe are great. Your philosophy however means I should pay more for driving on the same roads, taking the same buses, etc. just because I make more. Let's leave aside how hard I worked to get where I'm at, how many opportunities for "fun" I gave up, etc. because some people are just born into it.

So what? What exactly is fair in your opinion about them paying more for the same services? What is fair about making them subsidize others regardless of how they got where they are? Christian, humanitarian, public-minded ... sure ... how is it FAIR?

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I am assuming you are talking about property taxes. I am not talking about property taxes. I am talking about treating all INCOME the same, regardless of source.

¡Olé!

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Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

As mentioned numerous times.. you have no clue whatsoever. When a business person receives a tax break, 99% chance he/she will reinvest the saving for growth rather than paying more tax (at supposedly lower tax break rate) on a higher profit. It's only logical. This growth in turns will result in higher tax revenue. Bush tax cut resulting in over 40% tax revenue growth. Reagan's tax cut had the same result. Hell even your president agreed on his first term and extended it. The conservatives tend to have this willingness to 'progress' and grow. The progressive on the other hand only understands 'take take take.' The irony.

Most libtards dont get it. Unless you run your own business, stop making stupid assumptions.

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No lower taxes do not create increased gov intake like you suggest, lower taxes with MONUMENTAL increases in GOV spending and borrowing did. You guys bemoan Obama as spending too much while you just cited two of the largest deficit spenders in US history. You then call me a hypocrite... oh the irony. I pray for the day that the conservatives actually return to being conservatives like Eisenhower was.

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Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

So to be fair.. advocate for FLAT RATE tax. Why wouldn't that be fair?

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I would like to hear a logical response to this.

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Yes. How's that for logical?

I would still have a graduated income tax but with no deductions at all. Not even for a house. Because renters should not subsidize home owners.