Juan McCain

Is the Khmer Rouge in the house.
You don't get it. No one wants Revolution, that's the last thing I would want. My children would suffer as all Americans would. It would be a horrible plight on this Countries history.
We want a CONSERVATIVE in the White House. Not someone who attacked the 1A with the Dems. Wants open boarders. Slams a fellow Republican for being a successful business man. Juan believes global warming is man made. Juan wants to punish oil companies for making money. BTW the Federal Gov makes more on a gallon of gas than the stock holders do.

Juan McCain is not a CONSERVATIVE. So as a CONSERVATIVE I will vote for a CONSRVATIVE. I will vote for for BOB BARR a CONSRVATIVE. Not a wasted vote. A vote for whom I think would do the best for OUR Country.
Juan has not reached out to the CONSERVATIVES and feels he can win without us, so we shall see. He is moderate at best. I am a CONSERVATIVE. I'm a Catholic and go to a Catholic church not a Baptist, same concept as the voting thing. You vote for your guy and leave us CONSERVATIVES to our own dumb idealisms.
So continue to rant about Juan, it doesn't change these:

McCain Fiengold Gag Bill

McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. In 2007, to make the far-right base happy, he voted against the bill he had taken the lead on.(Edward M. Kennedy and John McCain )

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Originally Posted by ssf467

Is the Khmer Rouge in the house.
You don't get it. No one wants Revolution, that's the last thing I would want. My children would suffer as all Americans would. It would be a horrible plight on this Countries history.
We want a CONSERVATIVE in the White House. Not someone who attacked the 1A with the Dems. Wants open boarders. Slams a fellow Republican for being a successful business man. Juan believes global warming is man made. Juan wants to punish oil companies for making money. BTW the Federal Gov makes more on a gallon of gas than the stock holders do.

Juan McCain is not a CONSERVATIVE. So as a CONSERVATIVE I will vote for a CONSRVATIVE. I will vote for for BOB BARR a CONSRVATIVE. Not a wasted vote. A vote for whom I think would do the best for OUR Country.
Juan has not reached out to the CONSERVATIVES and feels he can win without us, so we shall see. He is moderate at best. I am a CONSERVATIVE. I'm a Catholic and go to a Catholic church not a Baptist, same concept as the voting thing. You vote for your guy and leave us CONSERVATIVES to our own dumb idealisms.
So continue to rant about Juan, it doesn't change these:

McCain Fiengold Gag Bill

McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. In 2007, to make the far-right base happy, he voted against the bill he had taken the lead on.(Edward M. Kennedy and John McCain )

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Have a nice life. I'm going to refuse to waste more common sense on someone who has been educated beyond their intelligence.

You too have a nice life and enjoy the GOP. I'm sure they'll return to their conservative roots if you continue to support their socialist agenda. You can take most of my rights and tax me to hell, but don't dare touch my guns! Sound's good to me.

Look, you both are obviously just on a rant of the same failed Repulican policies that took us down the path we are on. I gave Bush my vote 2 times and it has led our country to a war in Iraq, soaring energy costs, the worst liberty violations of history in this country and open border anarchy. If Obama gets elected then our country is ruined, if McCain gets elected our country is ruined. I am not whining, I am stating facts. I do more than pretend to love this country, I served for 10 years. I have seen combat on 3 continents and have seen the direction this country is taking. It is time for us to take the country back by using the Constitution and voting for our beliefs. The Republican party abandoned us a long time ago. McCain is for letting terrorists into our country, cap & trade and will do nothing to stop the Dem's from passing anti gun legislation as he is in their camp most of the time. He will say whatever needs to be said. Our founding father's warned us against a 2 party system saying it will destroy the Republic. By clinging to your misguided belief that McCain is the savior of all that is Holy you are activly participating in this country's demise.

As for Revolution, I will vote and vote for the little guy, who happens to be a conservative. Our Country was founded on the little guy and needs to go back to personal freedom, not what the largest government tells me is my freedom. BTW, McCain has said nothing about smaller Government.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/

It's all there in his website.

Again, if there were only 2 candidates I would vote the lesser of 2 evils, but since we are graced with freedom of choice, I choose Conservative, not liberal light.

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Originally Posted by westy1970

I gave Bush my vote 2 times and it has led our country to a war in Iraq, soaring energy costs, the worst liberty violations of history in this country and open border anarchy.

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I don't think you're giving enough credit to the Democrat Congress.

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Originally Posted by westy1970

Look, you both are obviously just on a rant of the same failed Repulican policies that took us down the path we are on. I gave Bush my vote 2 times and it has led our country to a war in Iraq, soaring energy costs, the worst liberty violations of history in this country and open border anarchy. If Obama gets elected then our country is ruined, if McCain gets elected our country is ruined. I am not whining, I am stating facts. I do more than pretend to love this country, I served for 10 years. I have seen combat on 3 continents and have seen the direction this country is taking. It is time for us to take the country back by using the Constitution and voting for our beliefs. The Republican party abandoned us a long time ago. McCain is for letting terrorists into our country, cap & trade and will do nothing to stop the Dem's from passing anti gun legislation as he is in their camp most of the time. He will say whatever needs to be said. Our founding father's warned us against a 2 party system saying it will destroy the Republic. By clinging to your misguided belief that McCain is the savior of all that is Holy you are activly participating in this country's demise.

As for Revolution, I will vote and vote for the little guy, who happens to be a conservative. Our Country was founded on the little guy and needs to go back to personal freedom, not what the largest government tells me is my freedom. BTW, McCain has said nothing about smaller Government.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/

It's all there in his website.

Again, if there were only 2 candidates I would vote the lesser of 2 evils, but since we are graced with freedom of choice, I choose Conservative, not liberal light.

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Let me say this to make my position clear. If I thought Barr had a snowball's chance of winning, I'd vote for him as well. The sad truth is, he doesn't and I'll not throw my vote away voting for him. I can respect idealism but I'm being practical. A vote for Barr is a vote for Obama and Obama scares the crap out of me.

What do you guys think wouldve happened if Tancredo had gone all the way?

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Originally Posted by Ridge

What do you guys think wouldve happened if Tancredo had gone all the way?

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Given the current choices, I'd have voted for him in a heartbeat, however, he's considered by many to be too radical and, therefore, I doubt he could have gone all the way.

first off, i can count on one hand the mccain policies with which i take major issue (they’ve already been thoroughly discussed). with obama, to count his bad policies it takes both hands, both feet, and the appendages of half a dozen friends. thompson was my 1st choice. he dropped out, so i caucused for paul. barr has great principles, but he will not win. we live in a 2 party system. disagree? name me one federal office where a 3rd party candidate has won, and neither lieberman or sanders count because they were previously elected democrats for their current positions.

of course everyone can vote however they choose. so, feel free to take the ideological high road and vote for barr (even though you realize hillary has a better chance of winning president than he does) while you strap on the shackles of the greater of two evils. or vote for obama out of spite to teach the gop a lesson: that we won't tolerate a leftist and sellout as our <sarcasm> conservative </sarcasm> nominee. but before you do, stick with me here and try to have an attention span greater than a high school cheerleader in calculus class, and think back to how well that worked in 2006. we sure taught those republicans a lesson, didn't we?

prior to the 2006 election:
1) consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5&#37;.

after the dems have controlled congress for nearly 2 years:
1) consumer confidence has plummeted;
2) regular gasoline soared to $4.00 a gallon;
3) unemployment rose to 5% (a 10% increase)
4) americans have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

think about it this way: let's say your house was on fire. who would you rather have show up, a third-class firefighter or a first-class arson? fdr enacted policies and welfare programs in his new deal that have outlived reagan. how much damage can obama do in 4 years? i'm not sure, but put me down in the column under doesn't want to find out.

so vote your conscience. or vote your spite. or vote mccain and cross your fingers that he'll at least appoint judges who take the constitution literally; move healthcare towards privatization/personalization; veto any 2A infringement garbage; and not totally destroy the country with campaign finance reform, sieve-like borders, and green taxes. heck he may even reach across the aisle to the other side for his VP... and pick a conservative?

just my $0.02.

Unemployment jumped from 5 to 5.5% last month with only 49K more unemployment claims. Students have graduated or are out for the summer and are looking for jobs. You can blame the last big increase in the minimum wage for the lack of most entry level jobs.