After 1400 years of inbreeding, I don't give them much credit for using me as a pawn in their grand plans.
Shouldn't be faulted for stating the facts. Or is it just not PC?
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After 1400 years of inbreeding, I don't give them much credit for using me as a pawn in their grand plans.
Shouldn't be faulted for stating the facts. Or is it just not PC?
I'm not attacking you, so please don't take it this way- but it's evident that you don't know enough about Islam, otherwise you wouldn't be bringing up others' generalizations. It seems, as far as I've learned about the various religions of the world, that Islam is the only one that employs subterfuge and outright lying to fool the enemy (in Islam that is everyone else) into thinking you're their friend. There are countless times Mahammad has done this. He preaches in the Qu'ran that it's just fine to lie to the infidel until you are strong enough to defeat him. So really, anyone generalizing is actually taking this little fact into account and saying "well since it's their tactical doctrine can we really afford NOT to generalize, since at any time any one of these folks could turn around and start slaughtering us?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Danimal
The thing is that I think Danimal and I and probably others know there are tons of Muslims who take their Islamic faith about as seriously as Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi take their Catholicism BUT the generalizations can push people like that into taking it more seriously because they are defensive about their culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
Most people I know don't really do deep analysis of their religious and cultural beliefs or practices or how those are linked to their overall philosophies and actions; some do but most don't. They act and react to what's presented to them at the moment and that's about it -- if they did deep analysis, the actual written Constitution and Founding Fathers would be more popular and we wouldn't see half the crap and cultural decay that we've experienced over the last 30-40 years.
In the meantime, we have a bunch of people who have grown up in a particular culture and have gotten defensive about it over the last 10-15 years, a smaller group of really evil people who use that defensiveness and any examples they can bend in order to recruit more into their jihad, and a larger group of useful idiots who are so devoted to the liberal extremes including multi-culturalism that they'll sell the jihadists the steel to make the knives used for the beheadings (under cost and at taxpayer expense, of course).
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Why not let them go over and fight (die) for Islam? I don't understand why we would want to keep violence seeking Muslims within our borders. I'll even contribute to their plane tickets.
I believe the "positive contribution" pertains to spreading the truth about Islam. There is so many lies throughout all of our media and politicians concerning "Moderate Muslims," it is the least I can do to inject a little truth where I can. If someone reads it, does some more research on their own, they will be better prepared for what is coming. If they read it, get offended, give them a plane ticket.
Frankly, I don't think they need much prodding into recruiting new members. I seriously doubt they give a rat's ass if I (or average Joe Citizen) speaks ill of Islam. If their propaganda machine is as good as I think it is, they need only lie to the "believers" in order to recruit them. It's not our lifestyle and freedom they hate...it's the fact we don't believe like they do. It's been that way since the founding of our country and the days of Jefferson. They just take advantage of modern technology and other modern means to assist with their goals today.
And, I'm pretty certain not all followers of Islam really want to kill infidels. But enough of them do that makes me think the entire religion is just whacked. They could pretty much all disappear from the face of the earth and it wouldn't ruin my day in the slightest.
I'll say it again and again... Unless they are ACTIVELY denouncing the acts of Islamic terrorists, they are at best IRRELEVANT, and more accurately condoning the terrorist actions.
How relevant were the citizens of Germany when Hitler was taking over the world? If they did not join the Nazi party, or actively fight, they were at best IRRELEVANT, and at worst complicit.
The whole culture of Islam prevents any of its members from getting in the way of Jihad... So at best, they are Irrelevant- and at worst another potential terrorist.
At least Mrs. Gabriel got through to a few of us. Well said Charger, I like your addition to the point Bridgette Gabriel was making- add in complicit. Like that quote "It's not evil men we must fear, but the indifference of good men."Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger