Active Shooter in TN: US Naval and Army centers, officer down

I'm reading various things that indicate this guy was trained. Why 2 different sites? Anyone notice the tight bullet pattern and height of the shots in the glass doors? Where would the bodies be if they dove behind their desks for cover? Who trained him? Well, we know that answer, if he was in any way connected with ISIS, all fingers point back to our own CIA...

I don't want to disrespect those victims that lost their lives in this event, so I'll refrain from anything else... Silence for the fallen.

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Originally Posted by hollohas

Fox is reporting this guy spent at least 7 months in Jordan and Yemen. Doesn't sound "domestic" to me...

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He was a naturalized citizen who went to primary and secondary school here. It's domestic.

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Originally Posted by sellersm

I'm reading various things that indicate this guy was trained. Why 2 different sites? Anyone notice the tight bullet pattern and height of the shots in the glass doors? Where would the bodies be if they dove behind their desks for cover? Who trained him? Well, we know that answer, if he was in any way connected with ISIS, all fingers point back to our own CIA...

I don't want to disrespect those victims that lost their lives in this event, so I'll refrain from anything else... Silence for the fallen.

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Was he one of obama's "moderate" muslims trained to fight ISIS?

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Originally Posted by rbeau30

I wish the media would just stop saying "Radicalized Islam". It is just: Islam. It is Islam's time. Just like once it was Christans' time, and Pagans' time. They all take turns throughout history "Jihading" or "Crusading" or "Persecuting", or "Inquisiting" whatever the folks that don't believe what they believe.


Once you give a group of people a book of writings that say there is a state of mind or body or whatever after this existance that is better than this one if you do what some deiety says. And those writings are so vague and open to interpretation (and have over 90 passages justifying killing folks who do not believe what you believe). This opens the doors to any person with some really good public-speaking skills to preach and twist "The teachings of god" into their own agenda.

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My Mom in Kalifornia has a muslim caregiver, a nice 63 year old lady who does a great job for my Mom but is a staunch Obama supporter. When I spoke with this lady her a few months ago about "muslim terrorists" and why the administration could not say that, she explained to me that peaceful muslims are the only "real muslims" and the jihadis and not muslims at all. I guess many may tell themselves that, but I have observed what the Koran and Hadiths say and I'm convinced it depends on what interpretations one subscribes to. The Koran and Hadiths (and Mohammed) clearly advocate violent practices to non-believers throughout, and one can't reasonably claim that such violent practices are not recommended or condoned. What one personally subscribes to is another matter.

As for why the administration and liberals/progressives defend muslims so staunchly, it has to do with their beliefs of the muslim people and communities around the world being an oppressed and downtrodden people and a need to defend them from all critique (in PC-speak they call this "minor aggressions") even to the point of denying terrorism. I can see why otherwise peaceful muslims would support that approach, as it seeks to minimize outward hostility toward muslims in general. However, my sense is with continued regular doses of terrorism by muslim jihadis - especially in the US - the bulk of American people will inevitably become anti-muslim and will harbor anti-muslim emotions/feelings. Couple this with the peaceful muslims lack of speaking out against muslim terrorism or leading the charge to do anything substantive about it, and it is inevitable that non-muslim westerners will feel hostility toward muslims. There have been many reports of exactly this happening in the european countries with higher muslim populations such as France, UK, Belgium, Denmark, and Sweden.

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Originally Posted by rbeau30

An enemy combatant (US citizen or not) attacking military locations is not Domestic Terrorism. Why do they keep labeling it this way.

I wish folks would just face it. The fight is coming to our own back door.

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Years ago we were told we could fight them over there or we could fight them here...the liberals decided they wouldn't fight them at all. Just like most of Europe they wanted to embrace Islam...we are seeing how well that is working out. What is occurring thru Europe and here is basically what prompted the crusades.

Regarding the "mainline Muslim" or the "peaceful Muslim"...

http://youtu.be/YnOF7y-KuHE

Interesting, CNN just reported he was released from a job at an Ohio nuke power plant in what sounded like the probationary hire period.

Well, instead of making the obvious connection that this foreign born muslim, with an engineering degree, who recently spent 7+ months in Jordan and Yemen, who aspired to work at a nuke plant probably had even more evil terroristic intentions, the media will call him a disgruntled, recently fired employee.

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Originally Posted by XC700116

Interesting, CNN just reported he was released from a job at an Ohio nuke power plant in what sounded like the probationary hire period.

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So his deep cover plan was to infil a nuclear power plant for purposes of sabotage ... his hopes are dashed so he throws together a little impromptu mass shooting. Clearly just a disgruntled worker (probably a Tea Party member too).

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

So his deep cover plan was to infil a nuclear power plant for purposes of sabotage ... his hopes are dashed so he throws together a little impromptu mass shooting. Clearly just a disgruntled worker (probably a Tea Party member too).

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Plus he had gotten nailed for a DUI in April.

Upstanding citizen to be sure.

But...he was a super muslim, and muslims of any sort don't drink. How'd he get a DUI?