Largest health insurer on Colorado exchange collapses

Everyone should probably be interested in this.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Everyone should probably be interested in this.

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Why? Do you or anyone else actually believe within the next year , we will have a choice. The fix was in when ACA became a reality. Then the .gov steered one to the state run health co-op. Which as everyone who has a pulse knows, is going tits up.

The writing for any "affordable" ins is on the wall. IMO by 2017 (if that) we will be paying OOP for everything. Then holding our breath wondering when the .gov reimbursement check will arrive.
Doubt it ill happen. Look at the fine print of quite a few MD's That small sentence which says SORRY WE DO NOT ACCEPT INSURANCE. Hell a lot of clinics and small time doc's have either closed or joined these "HEALTH COMBINES" UC Denver or Banner, to name a few. I was told why the small ones join. Unfortunately it escapes me at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Gman

Hurt them how? Profit motive and market competition tends to increase quality and reduce prices. Just look at the technology market and imagine the pieces of crap you'd have and the high prices you'd pay if it weren't for competition.

When it's run by the government, it won't be cheap, won't be efficient, and the "customer" value will be weighed against the tax dollars they can bring in vs. how much their care will cost. Wife's godmother lived in Canada and had cancer. They just ran her around in circles and made her wait until she died. The same thing will happen here if we let it.

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That is what works...period. Nothing else.

Healthcare is NOT a right, it is something to be earned. A persons health is their business and their responsibility, selfish assholes are the ones who want other people to pay their healthcare bills.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Why? Do you or anyone else actually believe within the next year , we will have a choice. The fix was in when ACA became a reality. Then the .gov steered one to the state run health co-op. Which as everyone who has a pulse knows, is going tits up.

The writing for any "affordable" ins is on the wall. IMO by 2017 (if that) we will be paying OOP for everything. Then holding our breath wondering when the .gov reimbursement check will arrive.
Doubt it ill happen. Look at the fine print of quite a few MD's That small sentence which says SORRY WE DO NOT ACCEPT INSURANCE. Hell a lot of clinics and small time doc's have either closed or joined these "HEALTH COMBINES" UC Denver or Banner, to name a few. I was told why the small ones join. Unfortunately it escapes me at the moment.

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The 2017 health plan everyone will be on is don't get sick.

Sound familiar?

Libtards will not admit this fail. And that's the worst part. If they would admit their ideas failed (as they always do) we could learn and move on. Of course then we wouldn't have Libtards.

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Originally Posted by roberth

Healthcare is NOT a right, it is something to be earned. A persons health is their business and their responsibility, selfish assholes are the ones who want other people to pay their healthcare bills.

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Win! I've gone 10 years paying for health insurance, with nothing more than wellness visits every couple years, and the results are always perfect (knock on wood). Where is my discount for going to the gym (paid for by me)? Or my discount for eating healthier (more expensive) food?

Little off topic rant.

Obamacare does not seek to improve medical care or the administration of medical care. Obamacare only seeks to levy the financial burden of the stupid and lazy upon the industrious thereby bringing everyone down and to empower the government further towards tyranny.

I keep repeating, the only economic condition we can all share is poverty, one goal of Obamacare is to drive the people of this nation into poverty.

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Originally Posted by roberth

Obamacare does not seek to improve medical care or the administration of medical care. Obamacare only seeks to levy the financial burden of the stupid and lazy upon the industrious thereby bringing everyone down and to empower the government further towards tyranny.

I keep repeating, the only economic condition we can all share is poverty, one goal of Obamacare is to drive the people of this nation into poverty.

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And meanwhile the costs continue to increase only at a higher rate now that we're all 'insured' because we all know how well insurance has done for driving the actual costs of covered goods down.

Stop giving health care to deadbeats & illegals!

Problem solved. Problem staying solved.

How is it that Ridge is the only person to comment on the only direct solution to rising pricess we've ever seen?

Yes, all those other issues exist, but as far as a company doing what had previously been impossible (price shopping), AND the providers encouraging it by directly paying insureds is a pretty big step in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by Irving

How is it that Ridge is the only person to comment on the only direct solution to rising pricess we've ever seen?

Yes, all those other issues exist, but as far as a company doing what had previously been impossible (price shopping), AND the providers encouraging it by directly paying insureds is a pretty big step in the right direction.

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Price shop with who?

NOW I REMEMBER!! One of the reasons smaller practices are joining the large (UC Health etc) groups. They get exemptions from the .gov how they treat, diagnose, bill patients AND the .gov.

Everyone in medicine is either going with the large "network" No longer accepting ins, OR closing shop.

I'm under the impression (from the article) that the more expensive prices are out of hospitals.