Father forgot he put gun in his son's backpack. He was arrested for what he did next.

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Originally Posted by Ridge

You're right, I worded it poorly (common theme for me lately).

Cops, by and large, are good folks who want to improve their cities. The leadership, is what is pushing them away from public safety and towards public enforcement. Police chiefs, sheriffs and city councils/mayors use cops as a source of revenue nowadays instead of helping the people.

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The political BS trickles its way in everywhere.

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Originally Posted by TheGrey

If you read the article, it clearly states the father was 53.

Surprisingly, people that age often DID bring guns to school- usually they were left in their vehicles to go hunting later. Before you jump to conclusions that I'm making excuses for him, I am explaining that there is a competely different mindset that goes with growing up with that outlook. To those of that mindset, guns are NOT frightening; they are a tool, just like a hammer or screwdriver. Just like leaving a screwdriver in a backpack, the annoyance factor of having to go retrieve it is likely at the forefront of a person's mind, not the fact that he's not got any way to hide it after he gets it from the kid's backpack. Was it a bonehead move? Yes. Will we know why he put the gun in his kid's backpack? Not likely. Maybe they went to the range the day before, and they used the backpack to carry stuff, and forgot to empty it. Maybe the kid grabbed the wrong backpack. Are you really trusting a fricking single news story, without checking to see what other information they've helpfully omitted so you can read it through their filter, to make the decision to unilaterally revoke his right to bear arms?

Did he make a mistake? Yup. Did he compound that mistake by his follow-up actions? He definitely did, and now he's got a record and will be a damn pariah because of it.

Does that justify the suggestion that he should never own a gun? That he lose his right? Hell no.
How about people that speak up against the majority opinon? Should they lose their right to the first amendment?



I bet you're disappointed. You should probably get used to that. Not everyone is intolerant, as judgmental, as uncompromising, and as willing to take away other people's rights as you seem to be.

If you read through the comments, you'll see everyone agrees that he screwed up. The difference is that nobody agrees he should lose his rights to own a gun because of that error. Do you think that he should also lose other rights, too?

I'm sure you've never made a mistake before.

Let me break things down to you in a different way. Let's say that Bob is driving from Cheyenne to Denver. Bob is a law-abiding citizen; he's never killed anyone with his car, he pays taxes, votes, raises his family quietly, and is pretty unnoticeable most of the time. Bob is driving, allows his attention wander for five seconds, and is suddenly speeding seven miles over the speed limit.

A CSP pulls him over.

Is this disastrous? No. COULD there have been an issue? COULD he have KILLED someone with that vehicle? DID he break the law?

By your logic, he should have his license revoked. Why?

This is the logic of liberals. They're awful disappointed in the attitude of many of the posters on the board, too.

You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

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did you really just compare speeding 7 over to putting a gun in a kids backpack that ends up at school? Talk about grapes to watermelon comparison. I also don't recall anyone ever dying because someone exercises their 1A rights and gave an opinion.

When it comes to firearms, there is no margin for error.

I am also not a liberal. I am a registered Republican. I just take my gun rights, gun safety and my responsibilities very seriously. Shame you and others do not. Also my view on this has nothing to do with politics, liberal or conservative. It has to do with safety, 100%. It is the absolute one thing I will NEVER compromise on.

stupid people with guns get other people hurt or killed. It doesn't get any simpler than that.


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Hate to break it to you, but today's Republican party makes the Liberals of 1951 look like absolute McCarthyites in comparison. Being a registered Republican, as if it's something that means anything, is like claiming to be a traditional Christian because you warm the pews of the local SuperFunRockband building, or, for that matter, go to Mass celebrated by some communist faggot who has his parish convinced of all manner of unChristian crap.

We all care about safety. While the hyperbole of no margin for error is bandied around in order to drive home the point, we all also realize that to err is human. Yes, when an event occurs which demands a reciprocal punishment I believe we all agree. But you seem to cater to an extreme viewpoint which IS ultimately modernly "liberal" in that it is fascistic in its overreach.

I have a buddy whose 16 year old son like to practice clearing the house. Buddy encourages this in case of a break-in. One time he slapped in a loaded magazine while practicing mag changes during clearing. Immediately buddy shouts stop. Lectures the kid. Tells him if he does that again he will only touch a rifle at the range. Then, we grabbed an old GI mag, taped the body with blue tape, removed the follower/spring, and said "here, a training mag." The rule became if he wants to practice room clearing,etc.,, he uses a training mag which is obviously so due to the tape. According to your logic, the kid should never touch a firearm again.

And you're right. TG's comparison is indeed a grapes to watermelon comparison since cars and bad driving kills FAR MORE per year, is taken for granted, and is a scourge for the rest of us just trying to get from A to B. But you didn't mean it that way, did you?

Don't put tools on a pedestal.

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

Hate to break it to you, but today's Republican party makes the Liberals of 1951 look like absolute McCarthyites in comparison. Being a registered Republican, as if it's something that means anything, is like claiming to be a traditional Christian because you warm the pews of the local SuperFunRockband building, or, for that matter, go to Mass celebrated by some communist faggot who has his parish convinced of all manner of unChristian crap.

We all care about safety. While the hyperbole of no margin for error is bandied around in order to drive home the point, we all also realize that to err is human. Yes, when an event occurs which demands a reciprocal punishment I believe we all agree. But you seem to cater to an extreme viewpoint which IS ultimately modernly "liberal" in that it is fascistic in its overreach.

I have a buddy whose 16 year old son like to practice clearing the house. Buddy encourages this in case of a break-in. One time he slapped in a loaded magazine while practicing mag changes during clearing. Immediately buddy shouts stop. Lectures the kid. Tells him if he does that again he will only touch a rifle at the range. Then, we grabbed an old GI mag, taped the body with blue tape, removed the follower/spring, and said "here, a training mag." The rule became if he wants to practice room clearing,etc.,, he uses a training mag which is obviously so due to the tape. According to your logic, the kid should never touch a firearm again.

And you're right. TG's comparison is indeed a grapes to watermelon comparison since cars and bad driving kills FAR MORE per year, is taken for granted, and is a scourge for the rest of us just trying to get from A to B. But you didn't mean it that way, did you?

Don't put tools on a pedestal.

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If there's no margin for error, then you must remove human beings from the equation.

Nobody's prefect.

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Originally Posted by Gman

If there's no margin for error, then you must remove human beings from the equation.

Nobody's prefect.

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COGirl303 seems to think she is a prefect.

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

... some communist faggot

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Tell us how you really feel!

I'm still laughing...

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

COGirl303 seems to think she is a prefect.

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I'm not perfect.

It is something my Dad ingrained in me. For all the things I have never taken seriously in my life from my HS grades to most of my life's responsibilities...for whatver reason firearms was the one thing that "I got" and "took seriously".





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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

Hate to break it to you, but today's Republican party makes the Liberals of 1951 look like absolute McCarthyites in comparison. Being a registered Republican, as if it's something that means anything, is like claiming to be a traditional Christian because you warm the pews of the local SuperFunRockband building, or, for that matter, go to Mass celebrated by some communist faggot who has his parish convinced of all manner of unChristian crap.

We all care about safety. While the hyperbole of no margin for error is bandied around in order to drive home the point, we all also realize that to err is human. Yes, when an event occurs which demands a reciprocal punishment I believe we all agree. But you seem to cater to an extreme viewpoint which IS ultimately modernly "liberal" in that it is fascistic in its overreach.

I have a buddy whose 16 year old son like to practice clearing the house. Buddy encourages this in case of a break-in. One time he slapped in a loaded magazine while practicing mag changes during clearing. Immediately buddy shouts stop. Lectures the kid. Tells him if he does that again he will only touch a rifle at the range. Then, we grabbed an old GI mag, taped the body with blue tape, removed the follower/spring, and said "here, a training mag." The rule became if he wants to practice room clearing,etc.,, he uses a training mag which is obviously so due to the tape. According to your logic, the kid should never touch a firearm again.

And you're right. TG's comparison is indeed a grapes to watermelon comparison since cars and bad driving kills FAR MORE per year, is taken for granted, and is a scourge for the rest of us just trying to get from A to B. But you didn't mean it that way, did you?

Don't put tools on a pedestal.

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