Yay Denver!

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Originally Posted by roberth

Of course they are, they aren't bound by federal law. Rules are for proles, not for the learned elite.

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Marijuana is illegal federally, CO don't care.

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Originally Posted by Irving

How exactly does a free injection site make money?

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Haven't you learned yet that nothing is free, someone is going to pay and that someone is Joe Schmoe the working man. If you believe the lie that "no public funds will be used" then I can't help you.

I can only speculate on how they'll make money on it t but I do know that this wouldn't be happening unless someone's pockets were getting greased.

Maybe a city council person has a buddy (developer) who owns an empty building and they'll charge Denver some atrocious sum to rent it, and the city council person will get a cut. Maybe the cartel promised someone campaign funds if they'd legalize smack. These are democrats we're talking about and they don't have morals or ethics, truly "the ends justify the means" is all we need to know.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Comparing them to pot shops is dumb considering the money pot shops make.

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I didn't compare this to a pot shop, I said the same kind of people will staff it. The kind of people who think they're exempt from prosecution or the kind of bleeding heart scum who think that the risk of getting stuck with an AIDS needle is worth "just one life".

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Originally Posted by kidicarus13

Marijuana is illegal federally, CO don't care.

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Right.

Now, what federal laws am I exempt from.

None.

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Originally Posted by roberth

Right.

Now, what federal laws am I exempt from.

None.

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Damn. Where's that LIKE button?

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Originally Posted by roberth

Right.

Now, what federal laws am I exempt from.

None.

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The exact same ones that the people you are complaining about are exempt from, whether you choose to utilize that is up to you.

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Originally Posted by DavieD55

This has nothing to do with helping people or finding a cure for drug addiction. It isn't normal nor is it an acceptable role for people in the government to provide addicts with places to get high. The state shouldn't be harboring illegal aliens or fostering safe havens for drug cartels to operate under sanctuary city policies either.

Let's just call it insanity because that is what it is.

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Precisely how I feel on the subject.

I'm still at a loss as to how anyone believes that this will help solve the problem of opioid/narcotic drug abuse (then again, I'm ASSUMING they want to resolve the problem) when all they are actually doing is helping to enable the behavior.

I don't realistically see deaths or hospitalizations from overdoses dropping just because you're going to offer a "safe/supervised" location where people can shoot up. Sure, they might be able to administer Narcan or whatever product to those ODing in their presence but I think it'll be a drop in the bucket. Oh, but they'll be offering flyers (which will then litter the streets) and services which can help these poor unfortunates. Does anyone really think for a second that anyone doesn't know these services exist? Do they really believe that these drug users will say "Well sh*t, I didn't know this option was available. Let me drop this needle full of heroin and go to one of these treatment facilities right now"? Dang it liberals, WAKE THE F UP TO REALITY!

What I do expect to see is more used needles all over the streets for blocks around this site. I expect crime within a mile of this site to skyrocket. I expect more noise, more violence and less safety for the users as well as neighbors and citizens within the area of this site. When this fails to improve anything on the drug front and destroys the area around this site, how long will it be before they admit their failure? Will they then just decide to open another facility someplace else and try again because, well, "they just didn't do it right right time, but now we know better how to implement it"?

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Originally Posted by Eric P

Feds shut it down.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/l...e/73-620913839

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Originally Posted by Gman

No, Feds fired a shot across their bow. They are moving forward anyway.

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Originally Posted by roberth

Of course they are, they aren't bound by federal law. Rules are for proles, not for the learned elite.

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Yep. Places like Denver (soon to be most of CO, CA (most of the state), Seattle, etc. are thumbing their noses at the .fed and claiming that they can pick and choose which federal laws apply to them, but by golly they still expect to receive every federal tax dollar they believe should be coming to them. The liberal courts only made things worse by reinforcing this belief by telling the .fed that they can not withhold federal tax dollars when states/cities refuse to enforce federal law. Funny, I seem to recall the .fed having no problem withholding tax dollars from states that refused to abide by the old 55MPH speed limit.

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

What I do expect to see is more used needles all over the streets for blocks around this site.

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Just on this point alone, isn't the part of the purpose of these sites to provide clean needles? I thought that part of this was providing clean needles to reduce spreading disease, so I have to imagine that part of the way they operate would be to leave the used needle on site to be properly disposed. That being said, lack of used needles around is hardly an argument for the whole operation.

I've been struggling since the thread was posted to remember what any positives to this type of operation were when presented in the media. I can't for the life of me think of anything that sticks out more than the clean needle use. That by itself is such a small thing that it's like, who cares? Unless this was done in conjunction with some proven treatment to actually help people rid themselves of their addiction, I just don't see the point and the negatives really vastly outweigh any positives. Money, public or private, doesn't really matter* where it comes from, should be used toward cures, not comfort while someone navigates an addiction that generally only leads to one place.


*I'm not saying that I don't care if public money is used. I'm saying that regardless of where the money comes from, be it the passionate private sector, or the stolen public sector, it should be used well. This idea is lacking.

I just wish the .Gov had the cajones to ENFORCE Federal law, withhold funding from states and cities violating Federal laws and charging AND prosecuting officials that defy Federal law.

Hammer a few of the highest nails down deep and watch how fast this shit stops.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Just on this point alone, isn't the part of the purpose of these sites to provide clean needles? I thought that part of this was providing clean needles to reduce spreading disease, so I have to imagine that part of the way they operate would be to leave the used needle on site to be properly disposed. That being said, lack of used needles around is hardly an argument for the whole operation.

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The same people justifying this shit are the same ones who said something similar about the homeless.

If we give them a place to stay, the homeless problem will no longer be an issue for those living where the homeless now reside.

Providing Narcan to junkies is like providing RU486 to every female of breeding age. No responsibility or ramification for ones action.

Honestly all this feel good shit is always supported with your tax dollars. Based on the white guilt the Denver populace has. When you ask them how many they're opening their door for, you're called every name in the book, then some.

Here's how this agenda is working out in SF.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld6qYJe4pRs