Agreed, this along with Gunbot have been great over the years. The biggest hassle is comparing price per round after tax and shipping are added in.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillysWagon
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Agreed, this along with Gunbot have been great over the years. The biggest hassle is comparing price per round after tax and shipping are added in.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillysWagon
I thought about this a lot the last few days deciding whether I wanted to post or not. However, first and foremost; I?m a participant on this forum, and I don?t donate my time to run it so I respect the wishes of those who do even in situations where I don?t agree. I think there are three ways of looking at things. The market changes constantly, and we all need to adapt (I don?t agree at all with price fixing). I?ve been buying since high school in the 80s; I?ve seen plenty of ups and downs along the way. I will tell you right now that there are things I?ve held until prices went back up and then listed them because I didn?t want to lose my shorts selling them in a low market. In general I believe in the free market; if you are buying and selling, you accept and pay the market rate. I spent the last seven years preparing for the eventual ammo shortage, and I tried to encourage my friends to do the same. I do have a problem with the scalpers who buy up resources screwing others who need them and scalp with their prices. I was absolutely disgusted with the people who camped out at Walmart to buy all the bricks of 22lr to sell at $50-$75 a brick. I didn?t buy from those people, and made a note of who they were so I wouldn?t buy from them in the future. During this coronavirus thing, I made it to the stores before they were cleaned out, and I could have taken anything but only took what I needed so the person behind me could get what they needed. Lastly, I definitely agree with the community aspect of the board. If somebody is in need, I wouldn?t try to sell them anything; I would just give it to them. In close I think the message would be better received in terms of ethics not price fixing, but that is just my humble opinion. Scalping shouldn?t be tolerated; in general it?s a shitty thing to do to people. I don?t think it is unethical for people to raise their prices if the market supports those prices; personally, I thought Ron?s ad was reasonable and a decent deal given the current market especially given the fact the ammo was from his own personal stash. However, I definitely understand the desire to keep this a community trading place; I wouldn?t want it to be armslist either...trust outweighs profit for me every time. In general, I?ve been very thankful to have this board over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
Don't know you or your wife, but it sounds like she knows how to read you. [Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by jreifsch80
ETA: If we're going to keep debating the Trading Post practices for ammo pricing, why not re-open that thread rather than starting the conversation all over again in this thread?
The arbitrary nature of the ammo selling rule is a bit open ended and I can understand how that could be frustrating. I almost never use the trading post so I don't have a dog in this fight, but it sure seems like it could have a bit less grey area.
For example, one of the newer posts right now is a spam can of 7.62x54r that sold for $125. Someone thought that was a good deal and that's great. But that's basically double what I paid for all the cans that I have in my stores. So the opinion of a good deal is not universal.
The new rule? Don't offer a deal that you wouldn't offer to your priest, mother or best friend.
By that logic:
I'd give my mother a spam can of 7.62x54r or any ammo for free.
I'd sell a spam can to my priest or best friend for what I paid for it years ago.
So, the rules prevent me from profiting what-so-ever.
But for others that would profit off their moms, where's the line? Current market rate? (Super high now...). Last month's price? Last year's price? The price paid years ago like my 7.62x54r?
As it stands, that answer is up to the Mods discretion. If they want some grey area so they can treat every situation as unique, i can understand that. Shit is changing quickly right now. It might be frustrating for some, but they're driving this train, so it is what it is. There are other ways to sell ammo if that's what you want to do.
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Originally Posted by hollohas
Which is what it ultimately came down to in the other thread.
Where were the mods years ago when everyone was selling their $500 AR?s for $1,000 on here?
(Just being a smart ass. Not legitimately complaining. Please don?t ban me. This is my only contact with other people for who knows how long.)
Im going to guess thats why they started doing it now after going through all that?Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
After not having been on CTD's web site for over a year (maybe more, can't remember) I went there to see what the fuss was about.
7.62x39 Russian steel case ammo going for $20+ for a box of 20. This is stuff you could buy at Wally World for under $5/box a few months back. Crazy! At least 7.62x39 was available - all the more popular calibers (9mm and .223) were apparently sold out.
I guess I don't get it. I can understand buying ammo post Sandy Hook when it looked like there might be severe restrictions on ammo coming down (which would likely have been permanent)* but I don't see any effect of the virus being long-lived.
* I actually expected to see online ammo sales outlawed under Obama, I'm surprised he never tried that. For you youngn's out there, mail order ammo sales were outlawed per the 1968 gun control act and were only permitted again starting in 1986. I'm old enough that I still remember when not only did you have to buy ammo in person, if it was a pistol caliber (which included .22lr) any store that sold ammo was required to maintain a record of sales in a book that was inspectable by the ATF and/or the local police.
Some of those were $1,200 AR's (cost to buy or build) that sold for $1400. Is that gouging? Is it OK to make $200 for taking a chance, tying up funds (on something you might just get stuck with), and having access to a few things by spending 18 hours a day looking?Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
Tier 1? [ROFL2]Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal