sovereign citizen

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

It came up in discussion at work. My sergeant has done a stupid amount of research into them. He went off on a twenty five minute soapbox about them. Smart guy, but as soon as he gets going he doesn't stop.

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I don't know about your agency, but we get probably 4-6 e-mails a year from Federal and State agencies around the country detailing things the SC have done that are incredibly dangerous.

Ironically, it is the freedom and tolerance that the US has that prevents them from being rounded up (as would obviously happen in many, many other countries if you armed yourself, declared yourself to be violently opposed to the government, and members of your group started committing violent and disruptive acts). Note - I don't advocate rounding people up. I just think it's funny when any group says, "America sucks!" and then gets away with a bunch of shenanigans because America does not, in fact, suck.

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Originally Posted by Inspector Fowler

I don't know about your agency, but we get probably 4-6 e-mails a year from Federal and State agencies around the country detailing things the SC have done that are incredibly dangerous.

Ironically, it is the freedom and tolerance that the US has that prevents them from being rounded up (as would obviously happen in many, many other countries if you armed yourself, declared yourself to be violently opposed to the government, and members of your group started committing violent and disruptive acts). Note - I don't advocate rounding people up. I just think it's funny when any group says, "America sucks!" and then gets away with a bunch of shenanigans because America does not, in fact, suck.

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Yeah. I don't get those emails... They bypass me.. I'm sure I could get on "the list" if I asked.

I guess in the outback of Alaska you could be a sovereign citizen. You could live a 100 miles away from another living soul. Spend all your time hunting and fishing for food. Not work a job, and not pay taxes. One can only dream...

Duh illegals,,,
You might even have better chances of
getting a home
getting a new truck
better medical
NO IRS,,,

A person who is legal sovereign citizen (w/o country), they are living in US illegally.
If they really must give up their US citizenship, I recommend them to at least find a country that will give them a citizenship.
THere are countries who will accept some number of immigrants, but getting harder and harder.

So what happens if you lose your citizenship in a boating accident? [Coffee]

I talked to my buddy today and just as I figured he only had parts and pieces of info on it. When I told him what I found out about it he was not for it at all. I explained to him it is an extremist movement and that all of the stuff he was told was a bunch of crap. The guy that told him about it made it seem like it was the greatest thing in the world. I put the 2 web sites I went to on here so I do not think it is a big deal, I am definitely done looking into it as I found out all I need to know.

Yes Sovereigns go around the country "teaching" others to be sovereigns. It's a business for a lot of them and they make pretty good money doing it. Catch phrases like "Don't pay your mortgage but don't lose your house" paperwork schemes. Every sovereign I've dealt with thus far has been a ginormous doucher.