You are new to the site, so I will explain again. That filibuster was what got the Republicans swept out of office. Not marijuana legislation, not energized new voters etc.
You are new to the site, so I will explain again. That filibuster was what got the Republicans swept out of office. Not marijuana legislation, not energized new voters etc.
Let me see if I have this straight:Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Republicans kept the Civil Union bill from passing last year.
The public got upset and voted Democrats into office because of this.
Democrats passed gun control bills.
I am responsible.
Sounds plausible to me, but hey, I am "new to this site" and all.
In the end, I will never give up my morality in order to appease the general public's fragile sensibilities.
Guilty as charged!
You're right, my example was poor. My point is that your biased statistics are bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
I totally agree one should keep their personal business personal. I cringe when my own wife tries to kiss me in public.
Thanks for telling me what I really want; it turns out you're wrong. I wouldn't ask you to promote or support anything, because I honestly don't give a shit what you approve or condone, but you don't have the right to tell someone else they can't do something you disapprove of if it doesn't affect you. Approval is not the same thing as apathy.
I should not have used the word, "you" in my statement. "the homosexual lobby," would have been a better choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teufelhund
Yes, I certainly can "tell someone else they can't do something [I] disapprove of." I do it all the time. And have no intention of stopping the practice.
"Civil Union" is one step closer to "Marriage." This is where it is going to end up. Marriage is defined and explained throughout the Bible. I do not believe homosexuals should be "Married." This is my belief, and I vote/speak accordingly. There is not enough space here to get into all the ways public acceptance of homosexuality affects me and my family. In short, it is another glaring sign of the next fall of civilization. I can't stop it, but I will never accept it as valid.
Your morals are likely different than mine. No problem from here - I know where I'm grounded.
It affects you because you let it. WWJD?Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
Tell them to go, and sin no more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
See John 8:11
Gays can marry and your morals can remain unchanged at the same time. Similarly, the Country Music Awards and Hip Hop Awards can co-exist with little interference between the two.
So let me get this straight... Freedom, as you define it, is a one way street? Your way or no way at all? And what about those who do not agree or follow the bible? Are they wrong? I understand that your morals are dictated by your religious beliefs, somehow inspired by the teachings of a society that condoned slavery, women to be 2nd class citizens, and other archaic beliefs... Christianity, as per defined and outlined by the biblical writings of 2000+ years ago, cannot be taken literally in our modern society, otherwise anyone working on Sunday would be put to death, gays would be put to death, and a lot of other very bad things would happen. I often see the bible as a good guide, pointing those of us who wish to subscribe to those religious ideals in the direction needed when it becomes unclear. But the other great thing about liberty is CHOICE. We are free to choose to believe whatever we want, be it from the strict literal version of biblical Christianity, to the loose, libertarian-esque interpretation of Christianity (like what I follow), and everything else under the sun. I choose to believe that we are all free to live how we wish and do what makes us happy, if that means that two women want their union recognized by the state so they may be granted the same benefits as a legally married man and woman, so be it, I'm not one to judge, and as God said, neither should you be.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
I leave this for you davsel... God bless...
http://xcntrik.files.wordpress.com/2...3373990301.jpg
Oh and for the record, my uncle, RIP, was a homosexual, and a very devout Christian who loved his family and followed the teachings of Christ, more specifically, treating others justly, fairly and how you would like them to treat you. [Beer]
Certainly true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I am not concerned about my morals changing, but with societies morals changing.
I am simply expressing my moral beliefs.
Some will hear, most will not, but I will continue to my last breath, God willing.
Others wish to shout down my morals and tell me I must accept what is immoral, or that I should just keep quiet. I will not.
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Originally Posted by Ronin13
This is another false "teaching" attributed to the Bible.
This link explains it better than I:
http://www.letusreason.org/Pent44.htm
"This article is being written on behalf of all the ministries and people that defend the faith with the truth and are accused of judging because they test those who teach falsely with the Word of God.
The premise-Does God tell us not to judge?
The Bibles answer-No He does not.
John 7:24 Jesus says: “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” What Jesus does tell us is not to judge by our own opinions, but instead judge by the word of God, that is what it means to judge righteously. He always encouraged the people to judge. God told Israel to judge the prophets in the Old Testament. He had the true prophets judge the false but the people reacted saying the very same things people are saying today. Your being negative oh you never have anything good to say. In the New Testament we are told to judge prophecy, to discern, to test the spirits and we are told to test ALL things. We are told to do this because it helps keep us away from what is false and evil. The apostle Paul showed us how to judge so there would be no second guesswork. The apostle Paul said, “If anyone preaches another gospel let him be accursed” Would anyone say to Paul's face “your judging.” In 2 Thess. 3:14-15 “And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.” Strong guidelines that many avoid to do today. These are done not to condemn but to bring repentance and restoration."