BECAUSE IT'S BEING BANNED!!!!! You Silly Goose... [Flower][panic][Flower]
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The biggest problem with the ban is that it will take a shit ton of ammo supply out of the market, thus driving the price of ALL 5.56mm/.223 up. Simple "supply/demand" economics. Also there's the "slippery slope" argument ... if they can arbitrarily ban this ammo because it's "capable of penetrating body armor" then they can probably ban ALL rifle ammo under the same rubric.
I blame the pistol brace guys. :D
Looks like prices are in between .50 and .60 per round online. (Jason's guns, Armlist, Gunbroker) If it keeps climbing I might have to sell off some of the stock and use the money to buy some decent bullets to load in my thousands of round of brass. Something with better performance and penetration than m855. (like some Barnes TSX or Sierra match)
Take that Dicks add for $49.98 for the 150rd green box found in who knows which M855 thread here, perhaps this one, go over to Gander Mountain and buy as many as you want for $.33/rd plus tax.
As I recall, the dicks ad is good through 2-21.
I understand the issue with the ban; I was just intrigued by the comments of those who bought some because they had zero on hand. If I used that logic, I'd go broke in record time.
So green tip is the new black tip?
It works great in my Bushy, just as accurate as the 55 gr FMJ (but that is probably me more than anything), hits what I aim at (if I can see it I can hit it), the cost was for a while below the FMJ and I was able to trade excess pistol ammo for a bunch of the M855. The downside is that because of the steel penetrator some private ranges won't let you shoot it because it will damage the range targets. I have the same issue with my mil-surp .30-06: shoots through everything I shoot at. But so does my 7.62X39 at most ranges. What are you going to do.
I like it. But if someone has some M193 and will trade me two for my one, great. If not, no worries, I'll keep shooting it where I can.
If there's a market cheerfully accept their money. I'll wait till 2nd wave of panic buying. THEN put what i have for sale at some low ball price, oh the cries of unfair pricing. Oh My.
But enough about Panic Buying ammo. Lets talk about the real issue of Germany's short term bail out (AGAIN) of Greece. You don't continue patching holes in a sinking ship.
I know there are folks here that are bitter towards Jensens (at least one person anyway), but they have lots of the 120 round ammo cans of 855, $64 and change.
I wonder how many M193 tips could be painted with a single $5 can of green Krylon.....oh, how the mind wanders at such times [Muaha]
I'm gonna go with just painting flames on the casings, for a true hot rod look. Makes the bullet go faster. I'll call it M855 +P's!!!
i never understood the anti panic pricing crowd. sure, i plan ahead and thus don't need to buy ammo at crazy stupid prices, but everything in this country has a going rate due to supply and demand (or at least a perceived supply and demand). everything goes up in price at some point. everyone is supposed to sell it at lower prices? why? whats the duration of time that goes by that makes it ok to sell higher? scarcity of a good shouldn't allow anyone to raise prices? ever?
now certainly places like od green supply (RIP) charging a dollar a round for 7n6 can suck it, and i will never shop there. but its certainly their right to sell it at whatever they deem to be the market price. if they don't sell it at that price, they go out of business, as they did. same for people here. they can ask $3 a round if they want, who cares? if someone will buy it, might as well get the highest price possible. if they won't, then the seller can either lower their price or simply not sell it.
i bought 223 years back for 20 cents a round, can i now not sell it at a higher price without being a panic seller or price gouger?
I've learned, albeit apparently belatedly, that the correct grammatical term is "neckbearding".
This is so refreshing. It's been a while since we've had a "it's price gouging/no, it's supply and demand" argument. They always go so well.
Ok, I'm going to jump into this for no other reason than Jim Beam Devils Cut. [dig]
I've done quite a bit of research into plates (no real or even pretend research on my part beyond Google) and much of it started from Mick Boy's work gear thread. https://www.ar-15.co/threads/110033-...-(what-and-why)
From what I've read, M855 is the best 5.56 for defeating ceramic based armor plates and XM193 is the best for AR500 based plates. I know this is somewhat simplistic and I'd own AMI plates if they made XL but there seems to be a reason for m855.
Either way, please flame on and help me refine my understanding of 5.56 -vs- body armor.
The biggest issue I see with the price gouging is I feel like we are eating our own. We are gouging fellow 2A lovers. It's no wonder we can't band together and get anything done when we would cut each others throats. It's not like we are screwing liberals here, we are screwing ourselves.
The biggest issue I see is why do you care what someone asks for an item when someone else is willing to pay that price? Not trying to start another war...but we've been down this road a hundred times.
What? No depleted uranium?