Trump carries

Polls are garbage.
Real data matters.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...g/#more-123375

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Fortunately, we are at the stage in the presidential race where it is actually possible to guage what’s going on by looking at ballots, early voting, absentee ballot distribution modeling, and comparisons to prior elections. Even if the media doesn’t want to take that approach, we can do it ourselves.

Reader/Contributor “FLEPOREBLOG” has assembled some data to highlight reality. Empirical data rebukes the gaslighting and help people break the abusive cycle of battered voter syndrome:

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Betting Markets that Predicted Brexit Vote Are Pointing to Trump Victory

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Bookmaker William Hill says 71 per cent of the money so far staked is for Democrat Hillary Clinton. But 65 per cent of the bets by number are for the controversial Republican.That means a lot more punters are putting smaller bets on Trump, almost exactly the same pattern as was seen in the run up to the Brexit vote when the money was for Remain but the majority of bets were for Leave.

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Originally Posted by davsel

Polls are garbage.
Real data matters.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...g/#more-123375

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My only concern is that we went through all this in 2012. We had a lot of very smart people showing us line by line how the weighting and methodology and what not were all askew.
But then on election day Romney lost by pretty much what the polls said he would.


So why is this different than 2012? Why were the polls right then and not now?


I want to believe Trump is going to win, but I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than let down.


My fear is that the truth is that the polls are rigged now just as they were in 2012 but they’re rigged to justify the rigged election.

The biggest difference between now and 2012 is the enthusiasm. There has been a consistent massive turnout for Trump vs. the pitiful turnout for Romney.
I believe many stayed home in 2012, and have decided to not make that mistake again.

For what it's worth, I looked into what the betting people were saying in 2012 and everyone was betting on Obama.

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Originally Posted by davsel

The biggest difference between now and 2012 is the enthusiasm.

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True, but the vote of a Trump supporter doing the pee-pee dance before they vote and a Democrat sighing and saying "I guess we're stuck with Hillary" still count the same.

I have my $$$ on Rodham. Prepare for this country to change drastically. Unfortunately, there are now just too many "progressives" in this country for Trump to win.

Firearms related: If you want it/need it, buy it now.

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Originally Posted by kidicarus13

I have my $$$ on Rodham. Prepare for this country to change drastically. Unfortunately, there are now just too many "progressives" in this country for Trump to win.

Firearms related: If you want it/need it, buy it now.

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20+ years too late.

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

http://scontent.fsnc1-5.fna.fbcdn.ne...d0&oe=5869A7DF

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They put up THE best messages!

Yeah...I ordered some ammo tonight.