I'm going to take your baby, don't resist.

If you are abused by the local authorities... inform the FBI here http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investig...w/color-of-law

That's right. Keyboard commandos are the bullet proof types. The cops probably would've been so intimidated they would've just licked each others badges and left with their tails between their legs, overcome by internet badass awesomeness.

guess the only question I have after reading all of this back and forth...Bailey, do you have children?

Just following orders. Huh. Nice

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That's right. Keyboard commandos are the bullet proof types. The cops probably would've been so intimidated they would've just licked each others badges and left with their tails between their legs, overcome by internet badass awesomeness.

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Do not resist citizen, we will kill you....

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Originally Posted by BigDee

Whoever caused this blunder will pay both with their career and with a lot of money after the family is paid out in lawsuits.

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I'll believe it when I see it...

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Really? Im dead? When did badges become bulletproof?

I find it simply hilarious that in any discussion of a civilian confronting an officer with firearms the officer always wins. I guess thats the type of indoctrination that is needed to keep citizens in check. I think it is somewhat presumptuous of you to assume that I would be the one dead. Perhaps even a little insulting, but its cool man. I am older, slower, fatter, and uglier than I used to be, and not nearly as mean spirited...

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in the video .. just as an example.. there were at least 4 officers.... plus you figure at least oe more outside with the father......

so you can kill 5 trained officers before they over power you ??? oh and while badges are not bulletproof.. vests are.. and I'm quite sure they were all wearing one.

Oh and they have that one friend.. motorola...... then all of their friends with guns show up ... again .. your dead and your child is still with CPS.


you ARE a badass.

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guess the only question I have after reading all of this back and forth...Bailey, do you have children?

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I don't do surveys. If you have a point, make it. Hopefully it won't be quite as strained as some of the others.

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in the video .. just as an example.. there were at least 4 officers.... plus you figure at least oe more outside with the father......

so you can kill 5 trained officers before they over power you ??? oh and while badges are not bulletproof.. vests are.. and I'm quite sure they were all wearing one.

Oh and they have that one friend.. motorola...... then all of their friends with guns show up ... again .. your dead and your child is still with CPS.


you ARE a badass.

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Enhance your calm citizen. Obedience is your only option. Do not resist. No not fight back. Enhance your calm citizen.

Got it, nice message.

FWIW, we will likely never know how _I_ will perform in such a situation, and again, for the most part I just go blah, whatever when it comes to LEO interaction. However, I will not be bullied, threatened, or otherwise intimidated. Badge or not. Vest, radio, and helicopters or not.

And its obvious you have never been shot in a vest,. It hurts. You are not likely going to get up in a big hurry. Enjoy the delusion that the police have the upper hand over the citizenry.

Enhance your calm citizen. Obedience is your only option. Do not resist. No not fight back. Enhance your calm citizen.

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I don't do surveys. If you have a point, make it. Hopefully it won't be quite as strained as some of the others.

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My only point is as a very recent parent to my first child, and only taking the facts as what was represented in the article, I don't think anyone would have responded well to the chain of events. While I honestly don't know what would have occurred I know my wife would not have given our child over so easily. I also know I would have asked for a whole bunch of paperwork that they didn't have with them.

The moment they entered that home without the proper paperwork in hand, coupled with the fact the second hospital allowed them to leave with the child, says to me that the Police officers and the CPS involved were on the wrong side of the process and possibly even the wrong side of the law.

beyond that it becomes speculation as to what is justified...

Based on your overall stance, I was merely curious what you would do if they came for your child in a similar fashion, but the prelude to that is a simple one, you would have to be in the club.