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Originally Posted by KevDen2005
I do know of a couple family friends who were killed by a carload of drunk illegals on hwy 85 out in Adams County. They skipped back to mexico and were never held responsible for their actions. Now we can go around accusing/harassing citizens with forced blood draws but we can't seen to secure our borders.
I think that some restraint has been shown in this thread from the very first post.
Nothing good happens after midnight.....
(Unless your single, in Vegas)
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Originally Posted by Monky
And if the magazine bans and universal background checks save just one life, are you cool with them too?
Excluding your first sentence, every instance of DUI can be replace with Gun Control in your post and make just as valid an argument.
This has nothing to do with gun control, and a blatant illegal activity. Try to change the words around however you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by J
It has to do with people breaking the law. If you choose willingly to break the law and think you can get away with it, well they're playing the legal game too.
I didn't watch the entire video but I certainly didn't see anyone being forcibly restrained. I'm sure regardless of compliance or not, they're strapped down for their safety and that of those around them. He'll I've ripped out an iv by coming out of anesthesia and moving too quickly.
Replace gun control with whatever you want to J. Yes, I would give up guns if they could bring my cousin back. They can't though. This isn't about guns either.
Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.
Soon enough everything will be illegal.
Look, I am anti-drunk driving. But I am unconditionally against restricting rights of law abiding citizens to catch a few more criminals. Hell, I am against it for catching a whole bunch more criminals.
Breaking the law is one thing, but this country stands for rights, and process (or at least it used to). We have always understood that the rights and principals we hold dear are more important that the needs of the one or the few.
I want people who are drunk driving caught, but not at the loss of our rights and process. I feel for your loss, and I can read between the lines what happened there. But I cannot succumb to that reasoning in good faith. I am by no means saying we should be soft on drunk drivers. I am just saying that losing our entire system and right to process is a far bigger loss than missing a conviction on such a crime.
I wonder how many people voted out our rights, here in Colorado and across the country recently exactly because of what you write here. Sure, YOU may want to give up guns for this reason. But is that really a reason that we should throw out the 2nd amendment, generations of tradition and something that this country was explicitly founded upon? For every person, man woman and child for the rest of eternity? I find it astonishing that you cannot link your reasoning to give up rights and process here similar at worst to the thoughts presented by the anti-gun agenda in the recent elections. Or perhaps you can, as you have slightly hinted to, and just don't care.
Two quotes that I think are perfectly fitting here:
1. "I would rather be a victim than a subject" --J
2. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
Jeebus, am I the only one seeing this link here?
For their safety, hmmm I've heard that somewhere before....Quote:
Originally Posted by Monky
Oh, was it on a roller coaster?Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
No your not but I left the Drunk Driving to guns link alone as driving is not a right the guns are ...Quote:
Originally Posted by J
but I feel the exact same ......
Give up one right you might as well give up the rest too....
FOr thier and the officers safety...
so what if your printing .. carrying CCW all legal all that .. but your printing .. should the cops just tase you? .. you know .. just in case for your and their safety.