I guess this comes down to having a good porch light!! Well I'm calling it a nite...thanks for the lively discussion even if I do think it went south a bit here and there.
I guess this comes down to having a good porch light!! Well I'm calling it a nite...thanks for the lively discussion even if I do think it went south a bit here and there.
Thats the only way we know how to do it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by muddywings
You went from a woman screaming for help. TO A HOME INVASION.?? 2 Entirely different scenarios. Stay with the original issue or start a new thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalmeow
Actually, it happens often enough to be a concern for folks in their homes/apartments. Here's an example after a QUICK Google search:Quote:
Originally Posted by generalmeow
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/01...ion-71967.html
I've trained my family members that you NEVER (day or night) open the door for ANYONE you do not personally know and trust very well. PERIOD. And, if the situation raises any red flags then I'm 10'+ inside the door with a .45 and a phone handset. If it's at night, ALL outdoor lights are immediately turned on. And they remain on throughout the remainder of the night or until the situation is completely resolved. No exceptions policy on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by muddywings
I'm not afraid of anything here but I will always be as prepared as I can be and act in the smartest & safest manner possible for my family. Keeping all of the barriers in place between my family and potential risk is the smartest move I can make for their benefit. There are some very bad people out there who will do whatever it takes to take what is mine - including my families lives. They are getting craftier and will use peoples generosity & simpathy to make them victims. Until society cleans up it's act and I feel strangers are worthy of some degree of trust, I will continue to put my safety/my families safety above the needs of people I do not know.
ETA: Also, when someone comes to my front door that wasn't invited, I'm keeping an eye on my back door too in case the situation at the front door is meant to be a distraction.
sad to say in this day and age you just never know with people. lot of scary stories have started out similar to this. as much as i want to help everyone fact is my family comes first. i don't think my wife is trained well enough even with a shotgun for me to feel secure having her stand 10-15 feet back as i open the door. she would likely freeze if something happened and a guy came running in. from a front door you really can't tell if someone is pressed up against the wall or not ready to blow through the door. it would be tough to do safely without having both you and your spouse well trained. even throwing a blanket out is risky. best thing you can probably do is call the police let the girl know you have done so and tell her to press up against the door and you will continue to watch through the window well armed. if the guy shows up and approaches her then i would have to take the risk and open the door gun pointed and tell him to back off. i couldn't sit by and watch someone harm another, risk or not, but if it appears she is in no immediate danger i don't think i could risk opening the door.
We bash LEO's on this site too often. In my humble experience there are too many citizens that are asshole enough that they do not deserve to be "protected". Especially the non tax paying asshats that do nothing but smoke meth all day... Now, as a civilian, I would check out the situation as best I can under the circumstance before I come to any strangers aid, double that when my family and home is involved. Too many sick fucks out there that should be put away but because of "budget control" ain"t...
Why are they not on as SOP anyway, or did i misread that sentence? Our outside lights are either Motion sensor (solar power) or photoelectric, Around the dwelling, on when it gets dark, the rest on for movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
I asked my wife what SHE thought we should do and this is almost her exact response - she'd back me with the 12ga and I damn well better help the girl. I told her of the responses on this thread and she thinks it's a sad commentary on what we've become as a people. Have we really let the media, Liberals, criminals, politicians, et al turn our lives into cowering in a corner? Seeing only the bad and not being willing to help our neighbors despite some risk to ourselves?Quote:
Originally Posted by PSS
To be fair we're older and have no children at home, two dogs and lots of guns. I don't blame anyone for making their personal choice not to render aid and don't think that makes you a pussy, I understand your position that your family comes first. I just find it sad that this is the low place we find ourselves as a Nation that you would have reason to think that way. I want my Country back.
Disclaimer: I am not now nor have ever been a wrestler.
I don't live in a rural area, so the dynamics are somewhat different. In my neighborhood, the neighbors pretty much all know each other, and they all keep an eye on each other's houses. If someone comes to my porch screaming and pounding on the door crying rape, there will be witnesses, and I will probably answer the door and render aid while exercising reasonable caution, including having the wife suitably armed and on the phone with 911. Circumstances will dictate actions, at least for me.
I'm not calling you "wrong". Its just that you need to be aware that fake "I'm in trouble" is the opening of a classic home invasion scenario. Caution.Quote:
Originally Posted by muddywings