-more like might makes right in some situations, which can be abused if left unchecked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
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-more like might makes right in some situations, which can be abused if left unchecked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I moved to CT in March.
The one thing that has surprised me is the amount of "gun guys" that have registered. Reports today was that 30,000 have registered their guns/mags. rough estimates say that's about 15% of what's out there in circulation
I'm new to a "local" gun board out there and it seems as though I'm one of a few small minority that didn't register some are even boating about registering "extra" stuff (500 mags when they had 20, ar lowers and 80%ers) in an attempt to clog the system in paperwork
Not in my life time. Da Goberment Aint Getten Notin, Who TF cares what we have? The Gov do. They don't want an uprising when the sh*t goes down and they will go to the law abiding citizens 1st and take what they don't think we have the right to possess to protect our friends, family, and Country!! When the Real Criminals get to do what ever they want!! AKA "OBAMA" [fyou]
Another 'warning' from our friends in Canada: http://therightscoop.com/must-watch-...-confiscation/
I think the question should be, What is the trigger that would cause confiscation? I don't want the govt to know any more than they should, however we should all be aware that just discussing firearms in an open forum has probably been a defacto registration of your firearms especially given the govt's leanings toward collecting internet data. I would have to assume that everyone I have ever emailed, texted or ever discussed a gun trade, ammo purchase or other gun related item with is probably now in a data base as being a possible gun owner.
The registration is more about what type of firearm you have and should you be the first one we visit. So what triggers the govt to show up and take them on a wide scale. It would seem that if the order is given to disarm the people then this country has come to a place that this order would be too late and the point would be moot. At that point the bullets would already be flying. At that point the country has come to a place of no return anyway.
If they are only getting 30% of the guns registered then what good does it do? How would they ever hope to actually disarm the population of the US. They cannot be everywhere at once. The hiding of firearms would be way faster than they can move.
The area like NY that are being slowly disarmed are the real threat. Being able to control the large areas of population is the key to being able to control everything. At what point will NY be disarmed, what does the Chicago gun sales ban being declared unconstitutional do to the lefties plan to have the major cities disarmed?
It seems that registration is unnecessary. if they really wanted to confiscate your guns then a door to door search would have to be conducted and that seems unlikely and cumbersome. Eve those that have registered probably did not register everything and if they over registered to "clog the system" then they have caused themselves issues when the come to collect the guns and they cannot produce the weapons they claim to have had.
So the question is what triggers the mass confiscation of the guns? World war? I doubt it... The govt would want us armed to deter the hostile takeover from another country. Economic collapse? Too late at that point. Hostile dictatorship seizing power of the us govt.? still too late... Incremental elimination of the right to own them and the fear of making you a criminal for owning one and causing you to hand them over voluntarily? Probably the most likely and the most villainous method, but again I believe still too late. Too many guns in the population, too many people who do not trust the govt, could and probably would cause civil unrest and possibly civil war. Are we that sheepish that the population at large would hand over their rights and willingly give up their rights and their neighbors rights?
If so why and what triggers that type of actions?
I don't see a single event prompting gun confiscation/turn-in. You're looking short range, look long range. Think incremental steps. Each and every violent act involving a firearm has been, and will be, placed front and center by the liberal media and that in turn over time will cause the US population's views on firearms to slowly change. Let's just say our generation has 100,000,000 gun owners (made up #). Each and ever generation hereafter there will be less and less gun owners.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockhound
This will be accomplished by 1.) Stricter firearm laws on what can be purchased- no "assault rifles" or military rifles imported to the US 2.) Who can purchase them- more persons prohibited from owning firearms along with waiting periods and purchase limits/time 3.) How firearms can be transferred person-to-person- handing down from family member to family member will no longer be as simple as it is now.
It will become more cost prohibitive to shoot firearms due to higher range fees because 1.) moreEPA restrictions 2.) costlier insurance requirements 3.) stricter city ordinances 4.) possible storage fee laws that will require firearm owners to meet certain storage criteria 5.) licensing fees because the government wants their cut, and 6.) ever increasing ammo costs due to the higher world demand for raw materials along with limits on ammo purchases and no more mail order ammo.
Gun owners will become the new cigarette smoker- a social stigma that no one wants but some have because of addiction. Being labeled a firearm owner will be a stigma and it will be uncomfortable to the newer generations. Each generation will have more obstacles to overcome to own and shoot firearms. The Constitution and its original intent and purpose will have less and less meaning with newer generations. When more obstacles are placed in the way and the nature of most US citizens is to take the path of least resistance, there will be fewer and fewer firearms purchased over time. When demand goes down, supply goes down and firearm companies shut down.
It seems so predicatble to me that I wish there was a way I could place a wager on it to retire rich. Just like a major financial collapse in the US... it's not IF, but WHEN.
that sums it up perfectlyQuote:
Originally Posted by kidicarus13
Worth the 6:15 minutes it took to watch......Quote:
Originally Posted by sellersm
AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by kidicarus13
exactly my point, the original thread and some of theresponses were that you should not register your guns,Quote:
Originally Posted by kidicarus13
I don't see why registration would be needed was my point, they are not just going to come take them.. they will do it other ways