Confused about why I was just pulled over...

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Originally Posted by Colorado_Outback

He was just looking for something bigger.

Warrents, suspended license, a little beer on your breath or weed smell in your car.

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And we have a winner!



Solid painted lines on the highway are known as regulatory and or channelization lines. They are intended to guide or regulate the flow of traffic in that given lane.
It is unlawful to cross them, signal or not.
City and County of Denver made millions on the old airport tunnels over I70. The lanes were channelization lanes and they would write scores of tickets in one day on them.

Question for the LEO folks on electronic proof of insurance: if you hand your phone to Joe Occifer have you given up any reasonable expectation of privacy regarding the content of said phone? Meaning if you hand it to him is that essentially consent for him to nose through it?

Meh, I've replaced windshields twice in 25 years. One was pitted from driving through a sandstorm and the other had a 3 foot crack that ran along the base of the windshield but didn't interfere with my vision. I think I drove with both windshields for a year or so before replacing them. Never had a squawk about it from USAA, in fact one of their reps seemed to be enthusiastic about fixing or replacing windshields rather than having people go suffer from the effects on their vision when driving into the sun (the pitted one was horrible when I drove to Falcon AFS in the morning).

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

Question for the LEO folks on electronic proof of insurance: if you hand your phone to Joe Occifer have you given up any reasonable expectation of privacy regarding the content of said phone? Meaning if you hand it to him is that essentially consent for him to nose through it?

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Has that happened to you?

I'm not a lawyer, but like a lawyer, my answer is: That depends on the circumstances.

Consent is implied if you hand your phone to a LEO, however, under these cicumstances, your consent is specific and limited to the document you are showing the LEO. Like all consent, it can be withdrawn at any time, for any reason. When consent, the search should end and the phone should be returned. If however, seconds prior to consent being withdrawn, the LEO happens to glimpse your Kitty Porn, the LEO will maintain possession of the phone and obtain a search warrant to have the phone forensically examined and a good case built to obtain an arrest warrant for you.

I would think most cops would be OK with you showing them the doc on your phone and not need to handle the phone while doing so. After all, no one wants to accept a brand new iPhone 6 from someone, drop it and then be liable for replacement. [Flower]

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Originally Posted by james_bond_007

Merry Christmas.

Here is an offer to spend $19 for a $100 off credit toward a new windshield.
It should offset the $50 fine...a fine with no 'points' I might add.
http://local.amazon.com/denver-north...auto_vfe_deals

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Nice offer, but it's not usable with insurance, and using my insurance to replace would save me more than $100.

Is it seriously that difficult to keep your vehicle in proper functional order so you are NOT a target for BS tickets? The same thing goes for having valid registration, and insurance documentation in your vehicle.

People who whine about getting BS tickets are usually the same people who have valid issues with their stuff (Cracked windshield, tail lights out, outdated documentation, etc). There IS a price to being a lazy ass in maintaining your vehicle or documentation. If you don't want to be a target for these kind of tickets, then maintain your stuff properly so you are NOT a target.

Your argument falls a bit flat when the first thing you do is acknowledge that the tickets are indeed BS.

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Originally Posted by CHA-LEE

Is it seriously that difficult to keep your vehicle in proper functional order so you are NOT a target for BS tickets? The same thing goes for having valid registration, and insurance documentation in your vehicle.

People who whine about getting BS tickets are usually the same people who have valid issues with their stuff (Cracked windshield, tail lights out, outdated documentation, etc). There IS a price to being a lazy ass in maintaining your vehicle or documentation. If you don't want to be a target for these kind of tickets, then maintain your stuff properly so you are NOT a target.

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Really? So you think having a cracked windshield is a legitimate public safety concern? Oh nevermind, you admitted that it was BS. [LOL]

Also, thanks for calling me a lazy ass, but did it occur to you that maybe I don't have an extra $410 for a new windshield? (That was the safelite quote, btw) What if the windshield crack had occured that same day and it was not possible to get it fixed before I was pulled over? You still think that's my fault for being a "lazy ass"? What if the crack in my windshild has nothing to do with laziness, and maybe has to do with being fiscally responsible: I wasn't planning on replacing the windshield until Spring because the likelyhood of another crack during the winter is high and my family needs that money for more important things.

Honestly, if you are modifiying your behavior so as to not be a "target" for the police (as you said above) then congratulations - you live in a police state. Carry on about your day, citizen. [Shake]

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I don't have an extra $410 for a new windshield? (That was the safelite quote, btw)

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HB, do you have USAA? They will generally replace the windshield for free because it's cheaper than the ensuing accident if it breaks while you're driving.

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Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter

HB, do you have USAA? They will generally replace the windshield for free because it's cheaper than the ensuing accident if it breaks while you're driving.

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I will look into that. But first, I need to look into Falcon AFS... ;)

Thanks for the tip, I'll let you know what they say.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I will look into that. But first, I need to look into Falcon AFS... ;).

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Pfffftttt ... I told you I was an old fart. I'm proud to have been a 20XX before we got jammed in with the coneheads and that penitentiary out east will always be Falcatraz to me.