Many Denver drivers lack decency

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Originally Posted by OxArt

Anyone remember the shooter that had the ND --- either inside his car, or inside the trunk area of the crossover, I'm not sure. Seems like it was a parking lot of a range. All I remember is he died trying quickly to transition between the seats in the trunk area where his blowout kit was. Seems like it was Colorado, but my memory is too vague to get anything on a search engine.

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Yup- This was at the Firing Line in Aurora. I drove into the parking lot probably soon after he had expired, I hope.

While walking in, I barely registered somebody seemed to be looking for something in the back of his car, laying on the seat with legs out the door, no motion really, like reaching for some ammo that had rolled under the seat or fallen into the seat between the gaps. We didn't know anything was amiss until a range employee saw the open vehicle during a sudden downpour and asked if anybody had left their car door open. He went out to check, and from there it was code black. Three hours later, after making a detailed statement to the PD, I was allowed to leave. My understanding is that the guy had been shooting at the range and was sitting in the front seat, reloading with carry ammo, when he ND/AD into his torso. He got out and entered the rear passenger door, potentially opening the access into the trunk.

I STILL WONDER IF I WOULD HAVE ENGAGED HIM WITH A SIMPLE "YOU DOING OK, BUDDY?" WHEN I WALKED IN IF HE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED.

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Originally Posted by brutal

That's probably a better place for mine instead of under the back seat (truck) or rolling around on the back seat floor (car).

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I use these:

https://www.511tactical.com/tac-ready-pouch.html

Comes with a bungee to wrap around the headrest, and you can pull it over rather easily.

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Originally Posted by .455_Hunter

Yup- This was a the Firing Line in Aurora. I drove into the parking lot probably soon after he had expired, I hope.

While walking in, I barely registered somebody seemed to be looking for something in the back of his car, laying on the seat with legs out the door, no motion really, like reaching for some ammo that had rolled under the seat or fallen into the seat between the gaps. We didn't know anything was amiss until a range employee saw the open vehicle during a sudden downpour and asked if anybody had left their car door open. He went out to check, and from there it was code black. Three hours later, after making a detailed statement to the PD, I was allowed to leave. My understanding is that the guy had been shooting at the range and was sitting in the front seat, reloading with carry ammo, when he ND/AD into his torso. He got out and entered the rear passenger door, potentially opening the access into the trunk.

I STILL WONDER IF I WOULD HAVE ENGAGED HIM WITH A SIMPLE "YOU DOING OK, BUDDY?" WHEN I WALKED IN IF HE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED.

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Man that's rough. Thanks for posting.... sometime's were all too good at minding our business, myself included. I imagine it was some passage of time before you got there, but I'd think Firing Line would've been able to take it back in security footage and see how long the door was open for. (not knowing would bother me more, for some reason). Most of us have those "what if" moments I think, I've got a few -including a suicide that could've been avoided- but the signs are too subtle to beat ourselves up on. Thanks for refreshing everyone to pay attention to even non-threats.

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Originally Posted by Rucker61

I use these:

https://www.511tactical.com/tac-ready-pouch.html

Comes with a bungee to wrap around the headrest, and you can pull it over rather easily.

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All my IFAK are in mil pouches, I just need to sort something out. Glad this topic came up.

I keep one in each vehicle and one in my range bag.

Speaking of discharge inside the vehicle...
It reminds me of this thread.

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/56430-Question-about-NDs