A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black person than an unarmed black person is likely to be killed by police. I'd heard that statistic before but couldn't remember it exactly.
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A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black person than an unarmed black person is likely to be killed by police. I'd heard that statistic before but couldn't remember it exactly.
With all the comp time they've been racking up, it shouldn't take much convincing to organize this^.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
I'm saddened that you need a chart of numbers to understand that not every person's reality matches yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by fitz19d
This is an entirely different issue. Stop going out of your way to pretend that they are the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Wishing police would stay home for a week is the same as telling all your friends on Myspace not to buy gas on Tuesday to fight gas prices.
*You probably weren't on Myspace when it came out, but that kind of crap went around often back at that time.
Except the agency won't authorize everyone to take comp time at once. They'll have to go without permission and pay I'm guessing.
If they feel strongly enough about it, then they should do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
What exactly is different? The truth vs the lie? One is a make believe problem, the other is a real problem, both surrounding the same issue...blacks being killed. It seems plain as day to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Well so what? Is that a crime in Irvingland to wish something? I'm not telling anyone else to feel that way or to wish that would happen. I said that's what I would like to see. I didn't suggest you or anyone else needs to want that. Now THAT'S two separate things...telling all your friends on some silly social media platform to do something vs a singular person voicing a desire that something happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Okay no stat is fine, and let's get poverty white/brown/yellow/black/orange/blue out of stat to be fair.
Middle class minorities who are black and brown SAY they were a targeted by racism. They said it out of their fuxking mouth. What more bull shit discussion do people need?
LOL put word on their mouth and say:
"No you didnt"
"It is your culture"
"I am rich and highly educated. I have a minority friend and I dont see no racism!"
Bullshit!
From this incident, i am going to learn from this and try not to say anything offensive to anyone. No offense stuff to elder. Cautious talking to cry baby professors. Cautious talking to angry DMV employees. No offensive slangs including.
Now. If anyone steal your gun or Taser X26 and shoot you with it, it is totally a different situation. :)
The issue I have with it is that the group named "Black Lives Matter" isn't about what their name is.
Niger Innis: Black Lives Matter agenda doesn't have a 'damn thing to do' with saving black lives
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Niger Innis, the spokesman for the Congress of Racial Equality, slammed the Black Lives Matter movement for what he sees as “hard truths” about the group’s agenda.
“They take their instructions, their guidance from the Marxist playbook,” Innis, who is black, said to Fox News’s Laura Ingraham about the Black Lives Matter movement this week. “Look, I’m going to tell some hard truths that people aren’t going to want to hear.”
“The BLM movement, Black Lives Matter movement, was founded by Alicia Garza and a number of other co-founders that were promoting a hard Marxist and LGBT agenda,” Innis continued. “Look, I don’t have a problem with people exercising their First Amendment rights. You have the right to organize, you have the right to protest, you have the right to come up with an agenda. But I’ll be goddamned if you use the suffer[ing] and misery of black Americans and our legacy to the United States of America as your shield and use us as cannon fodder when your agenda really has not a damn thing to do with saving black lives.”
Innis acknowledged that many of the protesters enraged by the death of George Floyd are innocent and mean well but are “misguided.”
Innis, son of the late Roy Innis, a black American activist and politician, criticized the Black Lives Matter push to defund the police and argued that the group has its sights set on eliminating Western values as a whole.
“If you look at their agenda, defunding the police, that would put black lives in danger,” Innis warned. “But it’s even more than that, Laura. They have, as a part of their platform, on their own website that we want to disrupt — disrupt! — the Western-prescribed nuclear family.”
“They want to overthrow capitalism. They want to overthrow Western civilization, and they see America as the biggest clear and present danger to fulfilling that agenda, and they are using black people to do it.”
Innis cited the murder of 77-year-old retired police Capt. David Dorn, a black man who was allegedly murdered by a black looter in St. Louis while attempting to stop the robbery of a pawnshop, which is owned by a friend of his. Innis referred to the killers as “savages committing acts of destruction.”
“It is so gross, and for all of these corporations … that give a dollar or millions of dollars to the BLM agenda, they are destroying black lives. You want to talk about anti-black supremacy, that’s the anti-black supremacy that’s taking place,” Innis said before concluding with the point that “the irony ... is that it’s the illusion of black supremacy and the reality of a Marxist agenda that will bury all of us.”
Cities all across the country have witnessed peaceful protests, violent riots, and calls to defund and disband police departments in response to the death of Floyd, a black man who died while in police custody in Minneapolis. The Black Lives Matter organization has been the most outspoken, driving force behind those efforts.
Perhaps an angle being overlooked is this: Assume for sake of illustration that most ?white? people are being taught (in school, by parents, by peers, in the media) to be respectful and obey the commands of the police, and aren?t given much sympathy if they don?t, and things don?t turn out well for them. If black people are being raised to disrespect the police, not obey their commands, and that police are killing more black people than other black criminals (by their parents, teachers, news media, pop culture icons, peers, etc.), then it would be no surprise that lawful interactions based on probable cause or even reasonable suspicion between LEOs and the two groups would have drastically different outcomes, statistically.
That?s leaving out the reality that in the black ?pop culture? criminals, drug using/dealing, wife/girlfriend beating gang member, cop killers are routinely portrayed as role models in movies, music, news, rallies, books, ?black history?, etc.
Consider all the non-black members here complaining about encounters they’ve had with “gung-ho”, authoritarian, asshole cops. If they were black, they would be screaming racism. If they’re not, cops are just being assholes with nothing better to do. Perhaps it’s often more a learned perception of the person being contacted.