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61% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING No 435,344 65% Yes 232,294 35%
remember that it is "for the children"[Swim]Quote:
Originally Posted by merl
[ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3][LOL]Good one[Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
Here are a few facts. Teachers' pay and benefits are inversely proportional to the kids scholastic achievement scores. Back when America's education was was the envy of the world, teachers got paid peanuts. Now the education system is making bank and the kids are failing.
Why the change?? America haters and leftists took over the profession. The leftists realized after WWII that no army could conquer this country from without. It had to be conquered from within. A nation of thinkers cannot be subjugated, but a nation of morons sure as hell can.
(“America will fall without a shot being fired. It will fall from within.” – Nikita Krushchev)
The teachers are not totally to blame anymore than the average German soldier was to blame for Hitler's policies. However neither are completely innocent.
We often hear the lament that peace loving muslims never speak out or rebel against the jihadist faction of their religion. And so I say, "Why don't the few normal thinking people in the education profession start a revolution of their own?". You know they would have the support of the public. But they won't will they, because that would require walking the walk and it is easier to kowtow to the leftist establishment, pay them unions and phuck kids heads up with the progressive bull$hit and collect a paycheck and tell everyone outside of that world how appalled they are by what they see. I have no doubt Hans and Klaus used to go home in the evenings after a long day at the concentration camps and complain to their wives about what they were being forced to do. Although for them failure to carry out orders usually meant a meeting with a barking Mauser.
The system needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. The only way is to start from the beginning aka kindergarten. Build it one year at a time so the kids who are in it only know the new world. The Terra Nova of education. And when the last of the students of the old system graduate (oxymoron)
fire every last one of those sorry arsed bastards associated with it and ban them from any form of education with the threat of prosecution if they are caught near a school.
Are you forgetting the ballot issue that was passed several years ago that automatically increases school funding by 5% each year regardless of the inflation rate. Or, a bond issue that was passed in Jefferson County that was supposed to go for much needed new schools and smaller class size that was instead used for teacher salaries?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rooskibar03
This tax increase is supposed to expire in 5 years. Have you ever seen a tax increase expire? We are still paying a "temorary" gas tax which was levied for the building of the Valley Highway (I-25) through Denver after the flood in the sixties. I pay over $300 per month in property taxes with the single most bite of it going to schools. When is enough a enough?
as someone who has half their family and friends in education, i can comfortably say anyone who still buys the line that our schools need more money hasn't been learning their lessons over the last few decades. MONEY IS NOT THE PROBLEM! in fact, money might be the problem in the opposite direction. schools blow money like no one's business and we spend way more on our schooling than any other country yet our scores are lower. and we increase our spending every year and what happens to the scores? oh yeah, they go down. the education system won't be fixed until the libtards stop holding everyone's hands and start treating kids in a way that requires them to take responsbility as well as themselves stop being lazy, unmotivated and feeling entitled. almost every single teacher i know, including family members, think they are underpaid. its a freaking easy as **** degree!!! tons of people have them! you are paid according to the difficulty and desirability of your skills. don't bitch after graduating about your pay, you should have known from the get go what the pay scale was. if you want better pay, you should have gone into medicine, or engineering, or some other technical major.
on top of all of this, in my opinion the biggest reason kids and education fails is the parents. parents treat their kids way different these days, not nearly hard enough on them.
Tax hikes for education in Colorado lose big
Read more: Tax hikes for education in Colorado lose big - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/election20...#ixzz1cYPoE4o5
Leftists remind me of those con artists on TV at 2:00am trying to sell everyone on the idea that real estate is the road to the pot at the end of the rainbow.
http://www.motifake.com/image/demoti...1256210799.jpg
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do: babysit! We can get that for minimum wage. That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:.........00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours). Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations. LET'S SEE.... That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries). What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year. Wait a minute! There's something wrong here! There sure is!! The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77 per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student; a very inexpensive baby-sitter (and they even EDUCATE your kids!). WHAT A DEAL!!!!!
Over the past 2 years classes have raised about 5 kids per year. So you can kick that up to 40 kids for most teachers 7th grade and above. Teachers with master/doctorate level education and 10 years experience are the ones making 50k. The ones with just bachelors are making 5-10k less with the same experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumpstart
Laugh all you guys want to about it "being for the children" less educated kids hurt property values and create hooligans. But so long as you don't have to pay the extra $20 a year its worth letting our state rot from the inside.