AG Eric Holder's new campaign: to ban homeschooling

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Originally Posted by Clint45

(v) Education Law sections 801, 804, 806, and 808 also require the following subjects to be covered during grades kindergarten through twelve:

(a) Patriotism and citizenship;

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of mexico? somalia?

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Actually I'd argue that the gun stuff is a smoke screen to hide what they're doing to the economy. I think the home school stuff is an evil scheme they didn't plan on coming to light just yet.

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They knew the gun stuff would light up fires under conservatives. The whole point in bringing it up now is not only exploiting current tragedies but to keep our attention focused elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Clint45

(v) Education Law sections 801, 804, 806, and 808 also require the following subjects to be covered during grades kindergarten through twelve:

(a) Patriotism and citizenship;

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That's nice that it's in education law but how are they actually covering the topics? 10th graders today can't tell me what a 6th grader could 30 years ago in terms of how legislation becomes law (thank you Schoolhouse Rock). Current public school students are getting more time spent on "diversity", "multiculturalism", and other topics than on basic civics, the roots of our system of government, English common law vs. the Napoleonic Code, etc. Look at how much time they spend (or don't) in the current curriculum on George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, the Second Continental Congress, the essential grievances that drove the American Revolution, the Louisiana Purchase and America's expansion into the West, etc. When they DO study the Westward Expansion, do they get anything more than "Manifest Destiny was evil"?

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Actually I'd argue that the gun stuff is a smoke screen to hide what they're doing to the economy. I think the home school stuff is an evil scheme they didn't plan on coming to light just yet.

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This.

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Originally Posted by Clint45

It isn't generally reported in the media. I have a few friends working as investigators for Child Protective Services in another state, and a few friends who are public schoolteachers who are familiar with cases involving abused kids being pulled out of school by abusive parents for "home schooling", and am familiar with a few isolated "religious communities" who don't want any contact with the rest of society and try to maintain total control over their community like a cult . . . and I'm not talking about the Amish or Hassidic communities either, but nutjobs who make the Scientologists and Branch Davidians almost look sane.

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To paraphrase Ted Nugent, this isn't a home-schooling problem, this is a MANIAC problem... you can find a small minority in just about any group that will exploit whatever they can to do EVIL things. This should in no way be used to justify taking away the rights of citizens... My wife goes to extreme efforts to ensure our children are taught above and beyond what they would get in public schools- our oldest has been in and out of Public schools, so we're not just blindly saying they're CRAP where we live, they are worse.

Our youngest isn't even required to be in school at all until he's 7yo under our county- and he's already beyond 1st grade level in all subjects...at 6yo. She started him with an on-line Kindergarten at 5 (since it was based out of another county that allowed him to be enrolled with his August birthday at 5yo) because we used a "distance learning" public school, he's on record as starting Kindergarten in 2011... This wasn't done because we are dictatorial parents, he was BORED, and was asking if he could do what his older sisters were doing (home school)

So don't even hint that it MIGHT be ok to take away options that we currently have, based on the actions of a few bad individuals. Lumping responsible adults who are seeking alternatives to poor public school systems with what you are describing is insulting...

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Actually I'd argue that the gun stuff is a smoke screen to hide what they're doing to the economy. I think the home school stuff is an evil scheme they didn't plan on coming to light just yet.

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They mix it up- last week was Immigration reform... it's always something to distract, the American public has a short attention span. (and this is coming from someone who scored way high on an adult ADD test)