I think either you are full of shit or he completely lied to you. Either way there is a liberal that is full of shit and a liar....say it ain't so!
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I think either you are full of shit or he completely lied to you. Either way there is a liberal that is full of shit and a liar....say it ain't so!
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Originally Posted by jim
[Beer]
Well, while I was a bit harsh in my first post, it's because to many of us here, we saw it coming a LONG time ago and Nynco just couldn't grasp what we were talking about then it seemed.
I will however give you the props you deserve for actually putting this all out on here.
Nynco, I sense a bit more of an awakening that is coming your way. You have every right to feel like you've been bent over and given it dry by "your party", because you have. They lie, they're politicians, that's what they do. Point being, in the REALITY of today's world the majority of us are voting against something, or for the lesser of 2 evils, only the Kool-aide drinkers of the first order are voting FOR candidates, and typically it's because they want something from them (materially) while the rest of us just wish they'd but the F out of our business, our bedrooms, our kids minds, and our wallets.
I know the first line of what follows will sound patronizing, like I'm talking to you like you're a child, but bear with me it's not meant that way.
The closer you get to the true realization that this is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy, and the more you learn what the real role of the government is meant to be in our country vs what it's become, that the answers to all our "ills" are truly in liberty to do for yourself/ourselves with as little interference from the government as possible, the more you'll see the rest of our points of view.
Government officials are by and large the biggest fricken parasites on the planet and owe their loyalty ultimately to the gigantic monster they've created and no one else. Not us, the tax payers and not the voters, we are all just a means to their ends, nothing more. They see us as beneath them, and as a mindless idiots for them to pander to, or convince that their bad answer is better than the other guy's bad answer. IMO anyone that has any faith whatsoever in a politician is naive beyond measure. I mean, we're talking about a creature who's every waking moment revolves around winning the next popularity contest.
And the Republicans are getting worse, thinking they'll win if they just out popular the Democrats. it's more sickening to me than when the Democrats do it, because they are/were "my party" although I've never really called them that. I've voted for them out of voting against the others. I voted for Mittens as the more viable vote against Obama here in CO although I would have much rather given my vote to Johnson. I know how stupid that sounds but it truly was a vote for the strongest candidate against Obama and it's Pathetic that we've come to that.
Hopefully enough people will awaken to this before it's too late, and vote for liberty in primary elections to get better candidates, and then gain them the support they need to win in the big shows on election day. Otherwise, we're all screwed in the long run, if it isn't already too late.
It has everything to do with liberalism. Without any doubt, gun control has always been another special interest in liberal agenda. This was stated on every left convention...Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
Every rational human being knows that the ban eliminates certain guns based on 'cosmetic/look' which do not make a semi automatic more deadly or more suitable for criminal use. Furthermore, the liberals have no class to exploit the tragedies to push their agenda.Quote:
We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation, but we know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact and enforce common- sense laws and improvements – like closing the gun show loophole, improving our background check system, and reinstating the assault weapons ban, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals. Acting responsibly and with respect for differing views on this issue, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe
The truth hurts?Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
There are conservatives that are just as full of shit and on issues that are REALLY important. Like Romney claiming that corporations are people. Pretty much we are headed for a world of shit no matter what side is in power because BOTH are bought. Obama never changed any of the fundamental problems that caused the economy to melt down. He gave a great speech and then Wallstreet got its way. Just wait till someone or something pulls the dominoes out of the derivatives market. Something that never existed before 1998 but now eclipses the worlds wealth by something like 32x the total combined wealth of the world. Unregulated capitalism is just as evil as communism. Its a system of bets on bets on bets with no one really knowing where it ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by sniper7
Ragging on this guy isn't going to do anybody any good. He's eating crow right now and claims to be making a u-turn. I'll take a converted liberal any day over one that's still part of the machine. A decade ago, I had some *shudder* liberal tendencies. Now I find anything not staunchly Libertarian, revolting.( I voted rabidly pro-2A even in my dark days, but hey... ) I hope he follows thru and votes this issue in the future.
I also think that if he's true to his word, he'll carry more credibility with his conversations with other liberals than any of us would.
XC700116
Thanks for the long reply. I agree with you. I hope that one thing right, left, center, green, purple what ever... is that we need to get out of this two party hell.
If you don't know what the term Instant Run Off Voting means, please look it up. I think it is an important tool to restoring our freedom.
Until you actually grasp what has been happening to this country, because of the mindset of people like you, jerk or not i at least have a clue wtf was going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
You disappear from the board for how long?,mmmmmmmmmmmm enough to know how bad it is. Then you POP up like an addict having that Brief moment of Clarity right before you slam in to the wall of life. Yeah i'm a jerk, you, well your numerous post define everything about you.
Whats that saying" A liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet. You were mugged so bad, you're on life support.
BTW: any luck scraping the Hope & Change bumper sticker off
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant..._United_States
this will give us all the freedom to vote for who we WANT to win and then chose to vote against people for the next round.