We're Done with Colorado

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Originally Posted by ronaldrwl

Title says it all. My wife and I are sick of what's happening to Colorado/USA. I don't think the direction we're heading can be stopped. We're looking for a good place to retire. Who's coming with us? Let's settle in a F-U-Liberals town some where in Texas. We're planning to take several weekend vacations to find a place we like. Any suggestions of a nice place in Texas?

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Best place in TX?

In your rear-view mirror.

I was trapped in TX for a number of years, starting in Ft. Hood.

Paying as much or more than your mortgage for electricity for the A/C sucks.

It's hot, flat, humid, has bugs, reptiles and amphibians that want to kill us. I'll move to Alaska before I would move back to TX.

I'm just going to win the mega millions move to some island that I own and have a cargo ship from some 3rd world country stop by once a year with my ammo delivery.

To extend what Jer and Bailey said- Even if we win, I don't think, with my beliefs and way of thinking (conservative/libertarian/Constitutionalist) that CO is the best place either way, mostly due to the people that reside here and their ever increasing numbers. If we did win this current fight, I'd still be uncomfortable living among the doped up hippies that have their "COEXIST" stickers plastered all over their Prius next to their "Obama/Biden" sticker. I lost a ton of faith with the direction of the populace of this state when I first found out all those years ago (2008) sitting in my 1151 HMMWV at a range in Ft. Drum, NY hearing my brother's phone call stating the DNC would be in Denver that year... Regardless of laws, I have more of a problem with the people living here, not the ones running the show- for the people living here are the ones who elected those lawmakers.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

I agree with you on this, Jer. But there are a few asshats right on this forum who are really quick to ridicule others as cowards or quitters who simply want a better life elsewhere. I think they often speak without putting their brain in gear first.

Funny, though. I haven't seen them publicly ridicule MagPul for choosing to leave for a more politically friendly state if the anti-gun legislation passes. For some reason the MagPul people are heroes for saying they'll leave but others are cowards for saying the same thing. How does that work? Frankly, I agree with MagPul. But I don't see it as any different if an individual decides to take their business, money, talents and resources to another state in order to provide a better lifestyle for their families just as MagPul is doing to provide a better climate for their business.

This whole "fight or die" thing is simply ridiculous and it's a false dilemma. There are other choices. And I really doubt anyone is going to die if they choose to do neither and just "go with the flow". Believe it or not, some people are OK with that. I guess the gung-ho, macho allure of such statements are too hard for the simple-minded to resist.

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Magpul is leaving based on ethics. The CEO has said why should we continue to pay taxes to a government that will not let my employees or fellow citizens buy.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

To extend what Jer and Bailey said- Even if we win, I don't think, with my beliefs and way of thinking (conservative/libertarian/Constitutionalist) that CO is the best place either way, mostly due to the people that reside here and their ever increasing numbers. If we did win this current fight, I'd still be uncomfortable living among the doped up hippies that have their "COEXIST" stickers plastered all over their Prius next to their "Obama/Biden" sticker. I lost a ton of faith with the direction of the populace of this state when I first found out all those years ago (2008) sitting in my 1151 HMMWV at a range in Ft. Drum, NY hearing my brother's phone call stating the DNC would be in Denver that year... Regardless of laws, I have more of a problem with the people living here, not the ones running the show- for the people living here are the ones who elected those lawmakers.

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Honestly living in Evergreen or anywhere in the Denver Metro Area probably feels a lot more like living in California than it does down here in The Springs.

Get out of the DMA, Boulder and Aspen and you develop a much different view of the people of Colorado.

We're not done yet.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

To extend what Jer and Bailey said- Even if we win, I don't think, with my beliefs and way of thinking (conservative/libertarian/Constitutionalist) that CO is the best place either way, mostly due to the people that reside here and their ever increasing numbers. If we did win this current fight, I'd still be uncomfortable living among the doped up hippies that have their "COEXIST" stickers plastered all over their Prius next to their "Obama/Biden" sticker. I lost a ton of faith with the direction of the populace of this state when I first found out all those years ago (2008) sitting in my 1151 HMMWV at a range in Ft. Drum, NY hearing my brother's phone call stating the DNC would be in Denver that year... Regardless of laws, I have more of a problem with the people living here, not the ones running the show- for the people living here are the ones who elected those lawmakers.

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Just type a note and leave it on cars with Obama stickers. Something like this:

"Hello Friend,

I just wanted to let you know that some knucklehead vandalized your car by slapping an Obama sticker on it. The last thing you want is to be driving around all day, looking like a real idiot.

Take Care,

A Good Samaritan

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

I agree with you on this, Jer. But there are a few asshats right on this forum who are really quick to ridicule others as cowards or quitters who simply want a better life elsewhere. I think they often speak without putting their brain in gear first.

Funny, though. I haven't seen them publicly ridicule MagPul for choosing to leave for a more politically friendly state if the anti-gun legislation passes. For some reason the MagPul people are heroes for saying they'll leave but others are cowards for saying the same thing. How does that work? Frankly, I agree with MagPul. But I don't see it as any different if an individual decides to take their business, money, talents and resources to another state in order to provide a better lifestyle for their families just as MagPul is doing to provide a better climate for their business.

This whole "fight or die" thing is simply ridiculous and it's a false dilemma. There are other choices. And I really doubt anyone is going to die if they choose to do neither and just "go with the flow". Believe it or not, some people are OK with that. I guess the gung-ho, macho allure of such statements are too hard for the simple-minded to resist.

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I completely understand why you want to leave; I feel the same way. It makes me sick really because I love my home and land; I expected to be there for a long time. However, I think it is really important that we come together and fight back in this next election cycle. The Democrats need to know there are consequences. If we don't accomplish something in 2014, then it will get a lot worse nationally.

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Originally Posted by Madeinhb

Magpul is leaving based on ethics. The CEO has said why should we continue to pay taxes to a government that will not let my employees or fellow citizens buy.

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So an individual can't have similar ethics? Why should an individual continue to live under a state or local government, pay taxes to that state or local government and abide by the rules that don't allow me to own the perfectly lawful products MagPul will continue to make in their new location? Nothing you said can't apply to an individual.

One responsibility of a free man is to provide for his family. If he can do so better, and provide a better and more wholesome lifestyle, in another place why shouldn't that person aspire to that?

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Originally Posted by MED

I completely understand why you want to leave; I feel the same way. It makes me sick really because I love my home and land; I expected to be there for a long time. However, I think it is really important that we come together and fight back in this next election cycle. The Democrats need to know there are consequences. If we don't accomplish something in 2014, then it will get a lot worse nationally.

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And that's why I'll continue to do what I can for the next 8 months to a year before I leave. Then I'll continue to do my part wherever it is I call home.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Honestly living in Evergreen or anywhere in the Denver Metro Area probably feels a lot more like living in California than it does down here in The Springs.

Get out of the DMA, Boulder and Aspen and you develop a much different view of the people of Colorado.

We're not done yet.

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How is living in the Springs going to help you if the proposed legislation becomes state law? It doesn't get a lot more conservative than where I live in Park Co. Doesn't do me a lot of good when state law is dictated by people in the DMA, Boulder and elsewhere along the front range.

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Honestly living in Evergreen or anywhere in the Denver Metro Area probably feels a lot more like living in California than it does down here in The Springs.

Get out of the DMA, Boulder and Aspen and you develop a much different view of the people of Colorado.

We're not done yet.

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Well I have been spending more and more time with friends in Conifer... But yes, Evergreen has become very "progressive" in recent times, it makes me sick!

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Originally Posted by Madeinhb

Just type a note and leave it on cars with Obama stickers. Something like this:

"Hello Friend,

I just wanted to let you know that some knucklehead vandalized your car by slapping an Obama sticker on it. The last thing you want is to be driving around all day, looking like a real idiot.

Take Care,

A Good Samaritan

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[ROFL1] NICE! I'm gonna start doing that!