Official Presidential Debate thread 10/16

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10-16-2012, 20:44
Bailey Guns

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Originally Posted by hollohas

Wow, Ridge...

Stick to ponies.
10-16-2012, 20:44
sniper7

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Romney passed a permanent assault weapons ban as governor of MA.
Obama has given legal carry in national parks and on AMTRAK trains.

christ ridge...just vote for obama then. you obviously have no clue how either of those went down. do a search if you want my response for exactly how it all went down. FACTS
10-16-2012, 20:45
dwalker460

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Obama has become a moderate in the past 4 years. Romney is as well.

Ummm Obama is a socialist, there is nothing he is moderate on. BELIEVE that if reelected he will institute an AWB, continue the give-away programs, and ruin a lot of the things that make America great.
10-16-2012, 20:45
Ridge

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Originally Posted by CO303

Really?

I misread it as you saying he has clear supporters HERE. I apologize.
10-16-2012, 20:45
Ridge

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

Ummm Obama is a socialist, there is nothing he is moderate on. BELIEVE that if reelected he will institute an AWB, continue the give-away programs, and ruin a lot of the things that make America great.

How is he a socialist? He privatized healthcare in a free market economy.
10-16-2012, 20:46
sniper7

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Originally Posted by SuperiorDG

you are a fast typing SOB

[Weight]
10-16-2012, 20:46
sniper7

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Originally Posted by jim

He's also on a porn site, with his other hand!

and doing something else with the other hand[ROFL1]
10-16-2012, 20:46
CO303

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Originally Posted by Ridge

I misread it as you saying he has clear supporters HERE. I apologize.

If Obama has supporters here. I'm not one of them.
10-16-2012, 20:47
Ridge

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Originally Posted by sniper7

christ ridge...just vote for obama then.

I'll vote for whoever I think is the better candidate. You go ahead and vote on down that party line.
10-16-2012, 20:47
BPTactical

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Originally Posted by Irving

I think the confirmable number of deaths by legally owned NFA weapons, by the owner (as in, not stolen) is 2. No, I don't have the source.

I believe this is correct. One was by a LEO and the other was a Joe Schmuck.

I wish Mittens would have quoted stats from Clintons ban: less than 1/10th of one percent of all firearm related crimes were committed by a lawfully owned Assault weapon during the ban period.
That is the entire reason it was not reinstated.
10-16-2012, 20:47
funkfool

Everybody take a breath.
10-16-2012, 20:47
sniper7

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Originally Posted by Ridge

Obama has become a moderate in the past 4 years. Romney is as well.

and you believe him...[Bang]
10-16-2012, 20:47
Ridge

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Originally Posted by CO303

If Obama has supporters here. I'm not one of them.

I misread his post and felt it was a slight at me.
10-16-2012, 20:48
hollohas

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Originally Posted by Ridge

I misread it as you saying he has clear supporters HERE. I apologize.

No biggie, I suspected you may have thought I said HERE. I would never insult someone here by saying they support Obama. ;)
10-16-2012, 20:48
sniper7

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Originally Posted by Ridge

I'll vote for whoever I think is the better candidate. You go ahead and vote on down that party line.

Ridge is turning liberal. read it here. headline news. next up, rucker and Ridge seen at Bronie party
10-16-2012, 20:49
dwalker460

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Originally Posted by Irving

I think the confirmable number of deaths by legally owned NFA weapons, by the owner (as in, not stolen) is 2. No, I don't have the source.

According to Wikipedia (who knew?)

While NFA weapons as a whole are perceived by the American public as dangerous[citation needed], their use in crime is exceedingly rare. Legally-owned (ie, NFA-registered) machine guns have been used in only two murders since 1934, one of which was committed by a police officer.[9] A previous director of the ATF testified before Congress[citation needed] that fewer than ten registered machine guns (out of over 240,000 in the nation) have ever been used in any type of crime (including nonviolent offenses such as failing to notify ATF of address changes, etc.). The criminal use of other legally-owned NFA weapons is similarly rare. The Title II weapons used in prominent crimes, such the AK-47s used in the North Hollywood shootout of 1997, have universally been illegally-owned or illegally-converted weapons.
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10-16-2012, 20:50
Irving

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Originally Posted by sniper7

Ridge is turning liberal. read it here. headline news. next up, rucker and Ridge seen at Bronie party

Just because Ridge can see through the bullshit of the Republican party, that everyone else here loves to ignore, doesn't mean he is turning, or is, liberal.
10-16-2012, 20:50
02ducky

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Originally Posted by funkfool

Everybody take a breath.

[Beer]

Agreed!
10-16-2012, 20:51
sniper7

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

According to Wikipedia (who knew?)

While NFA weapons as a whole are perceived by the American public as dangerous[citation needed], their use in crime is exceedingly rare. Legally-owned (ie, NFA-registered) machine guns have been used in only two murders since 1934, one of which was committed by a police officer.[9] A previous director of the ATF testified before Congress[citation needed] that fewer than ten registered machine guns (out of over 240,000 in the nation) have ever been used in any type of crime (including nonviolent offenses such as failing to notify ATF of address changes, etc.). The criminal use of other legally-owned NFA weapons is similarly rare. The Title II weapons used in prominent crimes, such the AK-47s used in the North Hollywood shootout of 1997, have universally been illegally-owned or illegally-converted weapons.
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very interesting.

so now...if that because they are sooo hard to get? might be best to keep this info quiet or the antis will use it as a premise to use NFA regulations for all firearms....you know...to keep the guns out of the hands of the bad people.
10-16-2012, 20:51
jerrymrc

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Originally Posted by Irving

Just because Ridge can see through the bullshit of the Republican party, that everyone else here loves to ignore, doesn't mean he is turning, or is, liberal.

I will agree. [Flower]
10-16-2012, 20:51
dwalker460

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Originally Posted by Ridge

How is he a socialist? He privatized healthcare in a free market economy.

Are you nuts? Obamacare is NOT privatized healthcare, its the epitome of the government controlling health care.
10-16-2012, 20:52
jerrymrc

Stephanie Cutter is a tool. Just saying. [LOL]
10-16-2012, 20:53
sniper7

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

Are you nuts? Obamacare is NOT privatized healthcare, its the epitome of the government controlling health care.

this.

but really NOBODY knows the effects of obamacare yet, it hasn't been implemented, all that is known is that most people...who still have a job, have seen their premiums rising.
10-16-2012, 20:53
Ridge

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

Are you nuts? Obamacare is NOT privatized healthcare, its the epitome of the government controlling health care.

It's demanding that people buy healthcare from the private providers that already exist.
10-16-2012, 20:53
jerrymrc

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Originally Posted by sniper7

this.

but really NOBODY knows the effects of obamacare yet, it hasn't been implemented, all that is known is that most people...who still have a job, have seen their premiums rising.

Parts have already begun. [Coffee]
10-16-2012, 20:54
CO303

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Originally Posted by jerrymrc

Stephanie Cutter is a tool. Just saying. [LOL]

I'm good with that.
10-16-2012, 20:54
hollohas

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Originally Posted by Irving

Just because Ridge can see through the bullshit of the Republican party, that everyone else here loves to ignore, doesn't mean he is turning, or is, liberal.

That's an awfully broad Generalization...
10-16-2012, 20:54
Ridge

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Originally Posted by sniper7

let him answer on his own, pony boy doesn't need you to defend him. not your fight

Well he's right on in his assessment. Maybe you should take off the rose colored glasses and look at what the GOP actually has to offer. It's about what they are, not what they aren't (Obama).
10-16-2012, 20:55
sniper7

MSNBC breaking it down...saying obama won this one. thinking obama scored political points and where the country needs to head.
10-16-2012, 20:55
Rucker61

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Originally Posted by Ridge

I misread his post and felt it was a slight at me.

I get that all the time.
10-16-2012, 20:57
Ridge

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Originally Posted by sniper7

MSNBC breaking it down...saying obama won this one. thinking obama scored political points and where the country needs to head.

He absolutely left the stage a victor tonight.

They both rambled and dodged questions and interrupted each other, but Romney did it in a more overt and offensive way.
10-16-2012, 20:58
Zundfolge

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Originally Posted by dwalker460

I believe that no NFA weapon legally owned has ever been used in the commission of a crime by its owner...

There have been two murders committed with legally owned, NFA registered machine guns. One was a police officer that used a full auto M11 in .380 to kill a police informant, the other one. I don't remember the details of the other one other than it was in the early 90s in Ohio (actually I think both happened in Ohio ... what the hell's in the water there?).

The vast majority of crimes committed with NFA registered weapons are related to the improper possession and/or transfer of said weapons or the possession of narcotics along with an NFA weapon.

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Originally Posted by Ridge

He [Obama] absolutely left the stage a victor tonight.

They both rambled and dodged questions and interrupted each other, but Romney did it in a more overt and offensive way.

I guess I saw some other debate because you have the names backward of what I saw.
10-16-2012, 21:00
CO303

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Originally Posted by Ridge

He absolutely left the stage a victor tonight.

They both rambled and dodged questions and interrupted each other, but Romney did it in a more overt and offensive way.

I don't think this moved the needle either way. People will back their choice going in.
10-16-2012, 21:00
TRnCO

I didn't watch it as I already have my mind made up, so I saw it as a waste of band width and time..I feel for those that had to or decided to watch it. Talking politics is a good way to get a rise in one's blood pressure.
10-16-2012, 21:00
ChunkyMonkey

Voice your opinion....
Poll
http://politicslive.cnn.com/Event/Se...ntial_Debate_2
10-16-2012, 21:01
Colorado Luckydog

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Originally Posted by Ridge

He absolutely left the stage a victor tonight.

They both rambled and dodged questions and interrupted each other, but Romney did it in a more overt and offensive way.

That's fucking funny!
10-16-2012, 21:01
Ridge

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Originally Posted by CO303

I don't think this moved the needle either way. People will back their choice going in.

So far I feel Romney won the first debate, the VP debate was a draw and Obama won this one. I think there is one left before 11/6
10-16-2012, 21:01
hollohas

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Originally Posted by Ridge

He absolutely left the stage a victor tonight.

They both rambled and dodged questions and interrupted each other, but Romney did it in a more overt and offensive way.

I call this one a draw in the sense that I don't expect the polls to sway either way after tonight.
10-16-2012, 21:01
TEAMRICO

Heard a lot of talk.........four letters stood out......AWB.

Under the radar is out in the open.

Obama just reiderated the same old talking points with nothing new.
No change for me.
10-16-2012, 21:02
ChunkyMonkey

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Originally Posted by Ridge

He absolutely left the stage a victor tonight.

They both rambled and dodged questions and interrupted each other, but Romney did it in a more overt and offensive way.

YES..Obama is back in the game baby.. He is as great speaker as in 2008! Let's hope not too many people learnt about the real Obama in the past 4 years. bahhhhhhh...bahhhhhh

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