Nice!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-31FL0KqGck...deo+Course.png
But still not a SEAL
Nice!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-31FL0KqGck...deo+Course.png
But still not a SEAL
I'm curious how this case has become to blame the victim(plaintiff) and not the defendant simply because he was a war hero.
Right is right and wrong is wrong in my book and the way I see it Jesse gave Kyle the oportunity to retract and make and apology in lieu of a lawsuit and Kyle made his decision. And now the jury has spoken.
The facts are that Kyle used this story to promote his book and it worked like a charm. His family has made millions of $$$$ of which was partly due to saying untrue and libelous things about a famous person.
But NO. You guys call the victim a douche, asshole, faggot, piece of shit, and anything else you can come up with simply because the offender in this case happens to be a super duper ultra elite bad mother fucka operator that can do no wrong.
Blind worshipers the bunch of you are....
I actually find it rather disturbing that some of you address NONE of the findings in the lawsuit and of Kyle's character and instead talk shit about a man that had made millions on destroying Jesse's character. Like him or hate him, his character was defamed and the jury agreed.
Now lets see if Kyle's widow can actually donate all those millions like they promised instead of the measly 2%
We had a UD Team when I was stationed at Site One, they didn't call themselves SEALs. [Dunno] I don't know what Ventura was but it's pretty clear what he is.
In boot, 1974 (Navy) you could try out for the UDT/Seals as they were called. 2 guys who lived in my neighborhood were UDT/Seals. However that Seals designation had morphed in to a new style of training than they had back in 62 & 64.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whistler
Do you really think ANY of the people that purchased this book did so because of the story about Mr. Scruff Face?? Kyle didn't make millions on destroying Ventrua's character...he made millions because he wrote a compelling book of which an extremely small percentage contained the story about Ventura and none of it actually included his name. It's reported that $1.3M of the award was for unjust enrichment. Which to me means that the jury believed $1.3M of the profit they received from book sales were due directly to the apparently false story about Ventura. That's simply BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by bryjcom
It's much more likely that ZERO people purchased the book because of the minor story about Ventrua and therefore ZERO of the award should have been due to unjust enrichment. Or at the very most, the unjust enrichment award should be the same percentage as how many of the 525 pages in the book reference the false story.
Let's say there are 10 pages about this bar fight. The book made $3M in royalties by the last figure I have read. That would be $57k in unjust enrichment. This $1.3M is absolutely overboard.
Award Ventura some money for defamation = fine. (Although I personally disagree with the suit). But Kyle's estate should absolutely not be be guilty of $1.3M worth of unjust enrichment regarding this case.
And one thing is absolutely clear. Ventura has successfully tarnished his own name during and after this court case a HELL of a lot more than Kyle did with this book or his interviews.
I think a lot of people that didn't know who Chris Kyle was did buy the book because of the Ventura story.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
Like it or not, Jesse Ventura is, and always will be, a bigger name than Chris Kyle.
Why? Because the majority of Americans don't give two shits about who Chris Kyle is.
But they do know who Jesse "The Body" Ventura is. They know that he ain't got time to bleed. They know that he can body slam in the ring and in the Government. They know!!!
In summary, the Ventura story damn well sold books. Lots of books.
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If this was true than Jesse Ventura's books would be better sellers than Kyle's but they don't even come close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Fred
Why would anyone buy the book for the Ventura story when you could read it in 5 or 10 minutes sitting around Barnes and Noble with a cup of coffee? I read the book twice and don't even remember any part of the bar fight story. It would have been the least interesting part of the book, anywanyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Fred
hollohas, IIRC, one of the points Ventura's lawyers brought up that affected the award was that Kyle's own publicist gloated about how the Ventura story caused sales to spike. You really need to think the lawyers brought up some serious evidence when an unsympathetic plaintiff wins an award like this against a sympathetic defendant. There's a lot of denial and blind hero worship for Kyle but the more I look at the evident facts of the case, the more I begrudgingly support Ventura's side of it. I still think the man is an obnoxious egomaniac but his detractors are acting as extreme and panic-stricken as Morse's defenders were last year.
I am not picking a side, but this article has good analysis of the legal issues:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...suit-j-delgado
Also here is the link for ventura's SEAL Status: http://sofrep.com/36086/truth-jesse-...y-seal-status/
Jesse Ventura, former NAVY Seal (yes, he really was), pro-wrestler, Minnesota governor, and TV host, prevailed Tuesday in his defamation suit against the late Navy SEAL Chris Kyle. A jury awarded Ventura $1.845 million stemming from a passage in Kyle’s 2012 book American Sniper, in which Kyle recounts a 2006 fight inside a bar after a fallen serviceman’s wake. Kyle wrote that he and his group encountered a character named “Scruff Face,” who insulted George W. Bush, slammed the Iraq War, and even added the horrific sneer that SEALS “deserved to lose a few.” A fight ensued and, according to Kyle, “being level-headed and calm can last only so long. I laid him out. Tables flew. Stuff happened. Scruff Face ended up on the floor.” He added that Scruff Face reportedly had a black eye the next day.
Kyle should have perhaps left it at that. But during his book tour stop on the Opie and Anthony show, he identified “Scruff Face” as none other than Jesse Ventura. He repeated the claim again in another interview with Fox News.. . . . . .