Help settle dispute on athleticism...

And THIS... Is why I love Tim Thomas...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...GINQ_blog.html

Tim Thomas says he skipped White House trip because ‘government has grown out of control’

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“I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.

“This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.

“Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.

“This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic. TT”

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Originally Posted by Delfuego

[ROFL1] You dont know much about hockey do you...

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I played from the age of 8 till I was 17. Don't know much about recent NHL events as I stopped watching that junk after the lost season.

What do you disagree with? The minutes? In their last full season the NHL had 3 players average 30 minutes per game and the NBA. The NHl only had 24 players average over 21 minutes, 96 players did that in the NBA. NBA players play more minutes. It is undeniable.

Attackers move more than defensemen and goalies? You can have very active defensemen or inactive attackers, but in general this is very true.

Everything I stated there is factually correct.

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Originally Posted by Madeinhb

I've played hockey as well as sf in basketball. Hockey takes a lot more. Sorry but you're wrong. Hockey players go 100% the time they are on ice. Basketball players don't. So that whole plays more minutes isn't a fair argument. That's like saying if I sprinted as fast as I could for 20 straight minutes and you walked for 40 minutes, that you have more athleticism than me cause you did it longer. Doesn't make sense.

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LOL, hockey players go 100% all the time? That is just laughable. They do just as much standing around on the ice as basketball players do on the court. Also people tend to forget that jumping takes far more energy than running or skating. Try running for 5 minutes and then jumping for 5 minutes and see which one tries you out faster. Last I checked there is a lot of jumping in basketball and not so much in hockey.

I forgot to mention hockey is just gay Canadian soccer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...;v=txBVdz6UO3U

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Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh

I forgot to mention hockey is just gay Canadian soccer.

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:screwy: :D

In the cold too.

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I voted basketball. I'm torn.

Hockey is more demanding physically and they go all out typically for short Bursts and that is why they line change more often. It takes some finesse, aim and power to make it into a net with a guy in front of it.

Basketball is demanding for endurance so players can make it most of the game and get some breaks. Much more finess and skill required to have the touch to make shots consistently. Not the same since you don't have a guy standing in front of the rim but the rim also isn't twice the size of the backboard. And it is elevated, not on the same plane.

Hockey fights are much more fun to watch. The players typically seem more down to earth.

I love hockey games, I enjoy basketball if it is the playoffs when they actually seem to try, or college ball is awesome to watch.
All l know is they don't have march madness for hockey so basketball wins IMO.

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Originally Posted by akumadiavolo

I played from the age of 8 till I was 17.
Attackers move more than defensemen and goalies? You can have very active defensemen or inactive attackers, but in general this is very true.

Everything I stated there is factually correct.



LOL, hockey players go 100% all the time? That is just laughable. They do just as much standing around on the ice as basketball players do on the court. Also people tend to forget that jumping takes far more energy than running or skating. Try running for 5 minutes and then jumping for 5 minutes and see which one tries you out faster. Last I checked there is a lot of jumping in basketball and not so much in hockey.

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What did you play, pond hockey? That's the only place I have seen players stand around unless there was a whistle.
True older styles of hockey tended to have "stay at home" defenseman and what you call "attackers" are known as forwards, which traditionally were the offensive players.
The game has changed, offensive defenseman are as common as defensive forwards and you have to be able to play "two way" hockey to even get on ice in a competitive team. Forechecking and backchecking are critical in today's game.
And your statement on goaltenders is respectfully 100% inaccurate. As stated earlier the goaltender is the only player that is on the ice the entire game. He must remain in peak mental and physical condition and "in the game" the entire 60 minutes.
Ever try moving sideways on goal skates without lifting them while staying square to the shooter with your stick on the ice and your catch hand ready?
Ever try butterflying and popping up instantainiously and sideways to square off to the rebound?
Or moving post to post to stop a wrap around attempt?
All while wearing pads that are 12" wide and 33" long and pants and chest protector that make you feel like the Michelin man and are soaked with sweat after 58:00 minutes of play. Let's add the dynamic of having to know without taking your eye off of the puck what 11 other players are doing.
Yes, goaltenders must be in as good of shape if not better than any other player.
Strap some pads on, give it a try. I guarantee your ass will be worn out in 15 minutes like you never knew before.

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Originally Posted by akumadiavolo

LOL, hockey players go 100% all the time? That is just laughable. They do just as much standing around on the ice as basketball players do on the court. Also people tend to forget that jumping takes far more energy than running or skating. Try running for 5 minutes and then jumping for 5 minutes and see which one tries you out faster. Last I checked there is a lot of jumping in basketball and not so much in hockey.

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WTF does 5 min. of jumping have to do with anything? What BB player does that? They only jump when they HAVE to. Hockey players are ALWAYS skating. Your comparison makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by akumadiavolo

I played from the age of 8 till I was 17. Don't know much about recent NHL events as I stopped watching that junk after the lost season.

What do you disagree with? The minutes? In their last full season the NHL had 3 players average 30 minutes per game and the NBA. The NHl only had 24 players average over 21 minutes, 96 players did that in the NBA. NBA players play more minutes. It is undeniable.

Attackers move more than defensemen and goalies? You can have very active defensemen or inactive attackers, but in general this is very true.

Everything I stated there is factually correct.



LOL, hockey players go 100% all the time? That is just laughable. They do just as much standing around on the ice as basketball players do on the court. Also people tend to forget that jumping takes far more energy than running or skating. Try running for 5 minutes and then jumping for 5 minutes and see which one tries you out faster. Last I checked there is a lot of jumping in basketball and not so much in hockey.

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When hockey players are skating on the ice, they are moving. Basketball plays barely run full speed. They usually jog or walk up and down the court. And while jumping does use energy, they aren't all doing it at once. And you forget, basketball has more fouls, TV timeouts, etc to stop plays. I'm not saying basketball isn't a physical demanding sport. It was which needs more, and hockey will always be the answer.

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Originally Posted by sniper7

I voted basketball. I'm torn.

Basketball is demanding for endurance so players can make it most of the game and get some breaks. Much more finess and skill required to have the touch to make shots consistently. Not the same since you don't have a guy standing in front of the rim but the rim also isn't twice the size of the backboard. And it is elevated, not on the same plane.

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Um in today's basketball environment, players specialize in certain parts of the game. Shaq was not a finesse player. He was a give me the ball and ill dunk it. Some players are really great shots, some are for dunking and some rebounds. Not all bball players have finesse. But to play hockey, every player needs to be able to skate, etc.